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NGL to da moon (well, maybe to $10?)!!
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Hello MLP investors, this board is for discussion of NGL a partnership that traded in 2022 like it was going to go bust, but.....didn't.

Lets see - quick snapshot. NGLs fiscal year ends in March. In March of 2022 they had....

$3.35b long term debt
$550m Class D 9% preferred stock (which is in arrears)
$348m Class C and B partners preferred stock (also in arrears)
$116m bank loan on line of credit

The annual interest expense on that mess was $271m.

Sales were $7.95b (wow!). The have three business lines described as

Water Solutions $ 545m
Crude Oil Logistics $2.5b
Liquids Logistics $4.9b

Adjusted EBITDA for fiscal 2022 was $543m.

So...the good news is that $543m of F2022 EBITDA can service the F2022 $271m of interest expense. OK.

Hmmm, so why were they trading like they were going to go bankrupt?

The F2022 $543m EBITDA was an improvement from F2021 $448m EBITDA. EBITDA grew. That's also good.

So we are now in the final months of NGL's fiscal 2023 (March). The recent news is.....

NGL has paid down 2023 debt such that total long term debt should be about $2.92b in March 2023.

NGL's business is doing well, so fiscal 2023 EBITDA is expected to be $630m (compared to $543m last fiscal year).

Interest expense for F2023 will probably be about $280m, declining to ~$260m next year (due to the reduction in long term debt).

The main driver of NGL's EBITDA growth is growth in their "Water Solutions" segment. I think this is some water pipeline that exists and is paid for, and as NGL fills it up with sales volumes, the margin on every extra barrel of water transported is. well, very high. More water transport sales = more EBITDA.

To illustrate. In the nine months through Dec 2022 NGL did $511m Water Solutions sales with a COGS of $14. Yowza! I don't claim to know how that is possible, but that's what the financial statement say. I think investors are hoping NGL can grow their water sales, because it's almost the same as growing cash flows.

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So....this brings to mind the question - what's $630m of EBITDA versus $2.9 billion in long term debt worth? It depends on the growth of EBITDA I think, well EBITDA will grow from 2021 (Mar) $448m to 2022 (Mar) $543m and now perhaps to 2023 (Mar $630m). It's definitely growing.

The market cap of NGL today (with $9 billion in sales and probably $630m in EBITDA) is $365m.

This market cap seems low to me.

Ok, off we go SI, anybody have any comments on NGL?
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111 NGL Energy Partners LP Announces Quarterly Cash Distribution for the Class B, Elroy-March 20
110NGL preferreds (series B and C) go ex-div at the end of March. At the end of DeElroy-March 3
109Yes, they added a fresh pipe they call the Lex 2. It cost $120m to build and isElroy-12/31/2024
108They expanded capacity just recently!!!!FIFO_kid2-12/31/2024
107<i> Kind of surprised to see you gone before the catalyst question of tElroy-12/31/2024
106Kind of surprised to see you gone before the catalyst question of the expanded wFIFO_kid2-12/31/2024
105I gave up on NGL and sold my common units. I still got some of the preferred stElroy-12/30/2024
104TULSA, Okla., December 12, 2024--(BUSINESS WIRE)--NGL Energy Partners LP (NYSE: Elroy-12/13/2024
103These guys are competitors with NGL's water division. Aris Water SolutiElroy-11/4/2024
102These guys have some business that is similar to NGL's water business. Elroy-10/25/2024
101Some interesting items on NGL from the previous conference call (early August). Elroy-10/13/2024
100NGL B and C have dropped to about $23 now that they've earned the 80 cents dElroy-10/1/2024
99Today is the last day to buy the B or C NGL preferred stock and receive the 80 cElroy-9/30/2024
98The June Q2 (fiscal Q1) results they said were good, but it left the full year EElroy-9/24/2024
97I was quite surprised the stock sold off below $4 given the short term catalystFIFO_kid2-9/24/2024
96NGL Energy Partners LP Announces Quarterly Cash Distribution for the Class B, ClElroy-9/24/2024
95Lets see, some simple thoughts on NGL. The partnership was near $6 before reporElroy-8/12/2024
94NGL Energy Partners LP Announces First Quarter Fiscal 2025 Financial Results fiElroy-8/8/2024
93This is the only publicly traded peer company for NGL's water business. It&Elroy-8/6/2024
92Hopefully this means they are producing more cash than expected, and at a minimuElroy-8/6/2024
91NGL Energy Partners LP Announces Quarterly Cash Distribution for the Class B, ClElroy-6/22/2024
90Here's some tidbits from the NGL conference call insidermonkey.com JPM Q: Elroy-6/12/2024
89Well, my take on NGL after the report is ...... The report was pretty disappoinElroy-6/8/2024
88Some key tidbits from the earnings call transcript..... Tarek Hamid And then IElroy-6/7/2024
87NGL - I'm not sure what caused the EBITDA miss in the March 2024 quarter. TElroy-6/6/2024
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