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Fundamental Value Investing
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One reads of Value Investors aligning themselves with their understanding or interpretation of the Investment Strategies and Modus Operandi of Benjamin Graham and Warren Buffett, ... two of the most renowned and successful of their craft.

From the literature of Warren Buffett’s approach to company analysis and stock market investment, we read that, amongst other considerations, he advocates the following.
These may come as a surprise to some who frequent these Value Boards ....


A) Diversification, the practice of owning shares in many different companies, is not necessarily the right way to invest. He asks, "Why put your money into your 20th. best choice, rather than putting more into your top 5 or 10 companies at a 'bargain' price ?" He recommends Portfolios of no more than about 10 stocks. Needless to say, one needs to have the confidence in, and the courage of, one’s "Fundamental Analysis Convictions".
B) Ignore the Macro events, and rather concentrate on the business specific Micro events. Concern yourself with the long term prospects of a business rather than attempting to predict the short term fate of the stock market. He says, "Ask yourself, are you an analyst of the National Economy, or are you a Business Analyst ?"

C) Ignore Stock Market forecasts. Stay at the Company level, rather than the Market level. He prefers to focus on the performance of a Business, and not to be distracted by larger trends that are often impossible to forecast with any degree of accuracy. Stay with what's "Understandable and Knowable". If either of the two are missing, pass it up.

D) Be Fearful when others are Greedy, and Greedy when others are Fearful. Be wary of investing when prices are rising irrationally, and they bear little relationship to the actual value of the underlying business. The IT bubble of the 90’s was a good example. However, being mindful that stocks must always meet your selection criteria, Buy when people are selling, and Sell when people are buying.

E) Some investors believe that a Contrarian Investing Strategy is superior to following the crowd. Buffett disagrees, because if the crowd is doing the wrong thing, going 180 degrees in the opposite direction may be no better. This is investing based on Polling rather than Thinking. He states, "Never substitute Popular Wisdom for Independent Thinking".

F) Buffett scorns the 'Efficient Market Theory' (EMT) which holds the premise that every share is exactly where it should be, because all the pushes and pulls of the Marketplace have led to that conclusion, so there’s no need to dig deeper !!!
In 1973 the Marketplace valued the Washington Post at $100mil. Buffett saw $400mil. to $500mil. History has shown who was correct.
Technical Analysis relies heavily on EMT. Warren Buffett sees very little value in this form of analysis. He stated, "If history revealed the path to riches, librarians would be rich", and "I'd be a bum on the street with a tin cup if the markets were always efficient". Anyone know of a Technical Analysis practitioner who is worth over $40 Billion ?

....... ALL OF THE ABOVE, plus much more, can be found in the book "How Buffett Does It" written by James Pardoe.

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Feel free to enter into constructive debate and discussion on this Board regarding any aspect of the stock market, especially if you can align yourself with what’s written above.

Because I find it of interest to look into the stock choices of others, I will make my own comments about those companies without reference to the author. Once again, feel free to have your own say in this regard. It could be that we may well discover something we previously missed, or didn’t consider.

My own approach to individual company analysis tends to rely on the K.I.S.S. principle, and my "first pass" tends to target the following specific areas of the Income Statement and Balance Sheet. These are combined into target percentages which a company MUST SIMULTANEOUSLY meet or exceed for further consideration.
If I comment on an Industrial type stock it will, in general, be on the basis of the following specifics.......

• Turnover
• EBITDA
• Interest Expense
• Profit Before Tax
• Net Income
• L.T.Debt
• Capital Employed = Employment of Capital (which is :- Total Assets - Total Current Liabilities)
• Share Capital & Retained Income
• EPS
• DPS (If any)
• P/E

Benjamin Graham stated, in the Preface to his book 'The Interpretation of Financial Statements' ... "if you have precise information as to a company's present financial position and its past earnings record, you are better equipped to gauge its future possibilities. And this is the essential function and value of Security Analysis."

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STOCK PORTFOLIO.

I believe I’ve recently achieved, WITHIN THE LAST YEAR, viz. 2007, and with
a portfolio of LESS THAN 10 stocks, the 40% per annum Capital Gain
target I referred to between Messages #24195 and #24225 at "Value Investing".
(dd 3 Jan. 2008).

For details, go to :-

Message 24464636


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FUNDAMENTAL VALUE ANALYSIS.

A respected contributor to this Board, The Ox, suggested, in Message #470 below, that I add a link to this
Header regarding "EBITDA Margin".
Here it is, followed by several others added over the course of time ....

EBITDA Margin :-

Message 24331039

Pretax Profit/Capital Employed :-

Message 24373885

Pretax Profit/Capital Employed revised ratio :-

Message 25640736

Interest Expense/EBITDA :-

Message 25749100

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---- WARREN BUFFETT'S INTERPRETATION OF FINANCIAL STATEMENTS ----

Message 26211740

WHAT BUFFETT LOOKS FOR :-

(a) ... in the INCOME STATEMENT

Message 27443100

(b) ... in the BALANCE SHEET

Message 26351814

(c) ... in the CASH FLOW STATEMENT

Message 26356792

HOW BUFFETT VALUES A COMPANY :-

... BUFFETT'S 'EQUITY BOND' THEORY

Message 26421355

BUFFETT'S COMPANY ANALYSIS TEMPLATE

Message 29804904


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---- WHY BUFFETT BELIEVES STOCKS BEAT GOLD and BONDS ----

Message 27968924


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SI Member's Portfolio vs. Buffett Portfolio

(A) Invitation :-

Message 28266359

(B) Rules :-

Message 28451626

(C) FINAL Combined Votes Received :-

34 Votes :- APA
31 Votes :- GLW, PH
28 Votes :- UNP
26 Votes :- ROC
25 Votes :- CMI, JOY
24 Votes :- AAPL, DIS
23 Votes :- SLW
22 Votes :-
21 Votes :-
20 Votes :- AMAT
18 Votes :- F
16 Votes :- CL, VZ
14 Votes :- PM
12 Votes :- SPLS

(D) Comments :-

(a)To find out WHY a stock has been RECOMMENDED I suggest putting the stock code into the "Search this Subject" box at the top of the page and hit the button alongside.
Alternatively you can go to the following Board to see a summarised list of stock recommendations ...


Subject 58786

(E) FINAL PORTFOLIOS

SI PORTFOLIO - TOP 10 :-
AAPL, APA, CMI, DIS, GLW, JOY, PH, ROC, SLW, UNP

BUFFETT PORTFOLIO :- AXP, COP, IBM, JNJ, KFT, KO, PG, USB, WFC, WMT

SI PORTFOLIO - 8 LOSERS :- ADM, AMAT, CL, CSX, F, PM, SPLS, VZ

(F) SI PORTFOLIO CHALLENGE (17 August 2012) in Google Docs.

TO VIEW THE LATEST UPDATE FOR THE PORTFOLIOS, visit :-

1) docs.google.com

VIEW PORTFOLIO CHARTS, courtesy of The Ox
:-

SI Portfolio - Top 10
Message 29690741

Buffett Portfolio
Message 29690764

SI Portfolio - 7 Losers
Message 29491218

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An hour long Interview with BENJAMIN GRAHAM, held back in 1976.

The more some things change, the more they can also stay the same.
Of interest could be his use of the AAA Bond Rate, his view on the 'Random Walk' theory and "Efficient" Markets, and what he thought of "Wall Street people" .....


Message 28956229

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COMPANY RESEARCH, published on another web site, by SI Members.

(1) Seeking Alpha articles by Sergio H :-
seekingalpha.com

If you've published a company analysis or recommendation on another web site and you would like to share it, then let me know and I'll post it here in my board's header.


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According to Warren Buffett's statements in a BLOOMBERG interview, ...

---> "INVEST ....... DON'T SPECULATE." <---

---> " 'Mr. MARKET' IS THERE TO SERVE YOU .... NOT TO INSTRUCT YOU." <---


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(A) Buffett prefers To Invest In companies that have CONSUMER MONOPOLIES, namely Businesses that :-

(1) Make products that wear out fast or are used up quickly,
(2) Provide repetitive service that manufacturers must use to influence the public to buy their products,
(3) Provide repetitive consumer services that are consistently in need,
(4) Retail stores that have acquired a regional quasi-monopoly position.

Consumer Monopolies are usually noted by a Brand Name Product or Service that consumers believe offers Superior Advantages over Any of its competition. The price competition between the merchants destroys the merchant's profit margins, BUT IT DOES NOT DESTROY THE PROFIT MARGIN of the manufacturer i.e. the CONSUMER MONOPOLY.
The CONSUMER MONOPOLY has far greater control of setting the price of its product or service and thereby making its desired profit.


(B) Buffett prefers Not To Invest In a company that is a COMMODITY TYPE BUSINESS, such as :-

(1) Raw foodstuff producers, e.g. corn & rice
(2) Steel producers
(3) Gas & Oil
(4) Lumber industry
(5) Paper manufacturers
(6) Automobile manufacturers

These companies sell a commodity for which there's Considerable Competition in the marketplace. Therefore THE PRICE of the product becomes THE PRIMARY FACTOR for the consumer in making a Buy decision.

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4329Thanks for that support Bob ....bruwin-November 13
4328HI Spek, From what I've read and heard from earnings webcasts, The H1 of 2robert b furman-November 12
4327LRCX is a very cyclical business. The whole sector (semi equipment) is doing surSpekulatius-November 12
4326HI Bruwin, With the merger and digestion of Novellus, Lam reached global scale.robert b furman1November 12
4325Decided to sell CL in my "5 Stock Portfolio" and replace it with LRCX.bruwin-November 12
4324Sometimes things "work out" because a fair number of other people are bruwin-October 7
4323This is PaulSr's 'reversion to the mean' approach and this has workeE_K_S-October 7
4322<i>"Always new things to learn and add to your investment bag of tricbruwin-October 7
4321FWIW, My Buy in 10/2015 on KLAC was also motivated by their secondary offering. E_K_S-October 7
4320Here we have the latest TTM Fundamental criteria for KLAC ..... Looks good .... bruwin-October 7
4319I've used the USA Stock Screen facility at the ADVFN web site. I put in mybruwin1October 7
4318Yes, if only we could find more of these in a great growth sector at a reasonablE_K_S-October 7
4317<i>"LRCX was 40% higher at the time (2015) selling for about $70/sharbruwin-October 7
4316I bought KLAC in 8/2015 a very similar company but about 30% smaller based on maE_K_S-October 7
4315Bought a stake in LRCX (not put into the SI Portfolio). It's performed reasobruwin-October 7
4314Yes, 4 out of the 5 stocks are well over 100% GAIN since 2012 ... And COLGATE bruwin-June 21
4313DIS not doing too bad either . . . At all time highs you would expect good gainE_K_S-June 21
4312GLW has been a STAR PERFORMER .... Up 170% since September 2012 !! .... and thatbruwin-June 21
4311Corning's long-term targets include 8% sales growth Jun. 14, 2019 9:43 AM ETE_K_S-June 14
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4306"Point & Figure" isn't a format that I tend to interrogate. Ibruwin-10/25/2018
4305If you look at the S&P bullish% chart, it rolled over a year ago and confirmDitchdigger-10/25/2018
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