Silicon Investor - NOK... without the BS

[sense] Wonder if my new chart analysis posted today will surprise anyone ? It shouldn'...

sense — 3/1/2013 3:14:19 PM

Wonder if my new chart analysis posted today will surprise anyone ?

It shouldn't, of course...

[sense] About a month later... and the daily charts show NOK now tracking lower on the l...

sense — 3/1/2013 3:12:17 PM

About a month later... and the daily charts show NOK now tracking lower on the lower bolly... having broken through support around $3.80. The bollies widening out with price tracking down along the lower bolly pretty well kills the hope it might trade sideways like it did in Sept to November last year.

Another month and we should see it setting up for testing $3 again, and with the 50 MA rolling over pointing lower... making the test one of whether or not the "death cross" will happen, or not...

There is the beginnings of a positive pinch forming on the daily charts, now, suggesting resistance and the possibility of a nice (and trade-able) pinch chart forming in the next few weeks as it drifts lower... but, the weekly chart doesn't confirm that, showing, instead, a strong correlation between ADX and MACD with both rolling over and pointing lower... only with MACD looking like its lagging the ADX trend a little, even as MACD rolled over and crossed the indicator line this week to confirm the downturn... That suggests the weekly chart may be forming a bit of a negative pinch pattern... which, on this chart, should mean you expect to see a contested chart and prolongation of the decline rather than an acceleration... but, still too early to make that call, and the MACD could well diverge at a faster pace in the next two or three weeks, as it did coming out of the MACD rollovers in Feb and May of 2011, and April of 2012...

NOK has been in a three year long decline...

The move above the middle bands on the weekly charts in November appears to have slowed the rate of decline, in the same way the similar move did that in June of 2010 to January of 2011... while moving off the lower bolly limit to test the limits of the upper bolly before continuing lower...

Biggest questions the charts leave open... are the timing...

An accelerated pattern might see a far more rapid decline occurring (as has occurred here previously in similar chart situations) probably with the trading in the next two or three weeks providing the key in what you should expect to see happening next. And, then, with a more accelerated chart developing, you'd also expect to see that pattern be paired with another more dynamic pattern coming out of a test of the bottom.

An less accelerated pattern in trading over the next few weeks... might presage the development of a longer, grinding, decline... paired with a less dynamic pattern in recovery...

And, of course, even considering the element of inertia in the trade, nothing in the charts should be expected to trump the longer term fundamental considerations, rather than integrate sentiment with them...

Don't ignore the 6 year monthly chart... which shows Jan 2009 to Apr 2010 being a decent proxy for Apr 2012 to present...

Compare Williams % R to the other metrics in each of the chart periods... ?

I don't see much evidence in charts that NOK can avoid a move lower now, or avoid a test of prior lows...

I also don't see much suggesting it will violate the prior lows rather than test them... while the charts now say NOK is still way closer to its bounce lower off an interim peak, now, than it is close to making a bottom...

Given the current chart dynamic, I think the support at $3 likely will not hold... but, can't call a range for the bottom yet, without seeing what happens over the next month...

[sense] Coming soon... cell phones that can tell you are ugly, that can tell you are an ...

sense — 2/5/2013 4:42:25 PM

Coming soon... cell phones that can tell you are ugly, that can tell you are an asshole, that can tell that you smell bad, and then kick you in the ass:

IBM: Computers Will See, Hear, Taste, Smell and Touch in 5 Years
mashable.com

[Lahcim Leinad] Yup. The P&F Chart agrees:Bearish Price Obj. (Revised): 3.31 P&F Pattern: Desc...

Lahcim Leinad — 2/5/2013 12:17:30 PM

Yup. The P&F Chart agrees:

Bearish Price Obj. (Revised): 3.31
P&F Pattern: Descending Triple Bottom Breakdown

[sense] Looked at an NOK chart today for the first time in a while... The three year we...

sense — 2/5/2013 11:46:09 AM

Looked at an NOK chart today for the first time in a while...

The three year weekly looks like three pearls on a string...
Each pearl is formed by the weekly bollies...
Each time the bollies pinch, NOK moves another pearl lower...
As the current pinch forms a new pearl, NOK bounced off the top bolly, and the 90 MA, just as it did back in April of 2010 and back in Feb of 2011

And just as it did in March of 2010 and Feb of 2011, the MACD is rolling over and pointing lower...

The bollies pinching, when share price is near the upper range... almost never an indication that the price will move higher rather than lower out of the pinch... and it doesn't look like its even close to threatening to do that in the current case anyway...

A similar pattern on the daily charts... provides more than one correlating pattern to be concerned about...

I'll guess its moving lower at least to test the lower bolly on the daily, down around $3... which is mid band on the weekly, and will admit to being surprised if it doesn't test $2 again as or shortly after ( with a couple of months) after the next "pearl" begins forming...

Seeing a decent double bottom around $2 forming up might be a pretty reasonable indicator of a pattern worth trading... with a bit more confidence that the chart patterns after that will provide more support than the chart patterns we see now are capable of...

But, then, there's the limit in the utility in TA... if what they're posting in their quarterly reports in that time isn't providing the sort of support that the market needs to sustain any of the expectations the charts suggest...

There are a couple of more neutral to positive factors in the charts, too, this time, which may suggest the next pearl won't duplicate prior experience and result in yet another major step lower as the new pearl forms up...

The other pearls formed at a pace of one per year, are each draped lower on the string... but, maybe the next one is resting on a table top instead of hanging lower on the string... but, its still very likely we'll see share prices "lower" soon, even if it is with movement occurring inside the pattern, even if the next pearl in the pattern itself isn't forming up enough yet for it to be saying that the pattern itself will be continuing lower...

[Lahcim Leinad] Yeah the 41mp sensor nokia has is an impressive feat. It has a big sensor for a ...

Lahcim Leinad — 2/5/2013 6:56:43 AM

Yeah the 41mp sensor nokia has is an impressive feat. It has a big sensor for a cell phone, but its still a much smaller sensor than the one that is in the 10mp Canon 40D that CPI uses in a lot of studios. So the Nokia sensor is great compared to other cell phones, but the 40D will win in picture quality hands down, even if you are blowing it up to poster size. Smaller sensors need more light and introduce more noise into the image. I suspect as time goes on they will figure out how to improve the small sensors to where they can compete with the current SLR sensors... but we are definitely not there yet.

Makes sense about as much as saying...

Yeah the V12 Jaguar engine is an impressive feat. It has a big engine for a sports car, but its still a much smaller engine than the one that is in the semis used by commercial haulers. So the V12 engine is great compared to other cars, but the semi will win in hauling capability hands down, even if you are towing up to two extra wagons. Smaller engines have less power and towing ability, so they can't haul the semi's load. I suspect as time goes on they will figure out how to improve sports car engines to where they can compete with the current semis... but we are definitely not there yet.

[sense] A post from another list where I'm over-seeing the demise of CPIC, a dying photo...

sense — 2/5/2013 1:27:23 AM

A post from another list where I'm over-seeing the demise of CPIC, a dying photo studio / tech era dinosaur... whose RAID servers for storage... have less capacity than I have on my laptop.

Thought you might enjoy fencing with it...

"Yeah the 41mp sensor nokia has is an impressive feat. It has a big sensor for a cell phone, but its still a much smaller sensor than the one that is in the 10mp Canon 40D that CPI uses in a lot of studios. So the Nokia sensor is great compared to other cell phones, but the 40D will win in picture quality hands down, even if you are blowing it up to poster size. Smaller sensors need more light and introduce more noise into the image. I suspect as time goes on they will figure out how to improve the small sensors to where they can compete with the current SLR sensors... but we are definitely not there yet.

That said, I'm not sure the average consumer cares or is really able to discern the difference. How many people out there buy an HD 1080p tv and then feed an SD signal from an old satellite tv or cable box to it, only to marvel at how great the picture is. Or worse yet, they feed a 4:3 ratio image to it and stretch it to 16:9 *shudder*.

[sense] I've similarly avoided any discussion of Apple here on SI I can imagine the blo...

sense — 1/29/2013 11:48:24 PM

I've similarly avoided any discussion of Apple here on SI

I can imagine the bloodletting from all the wrists that must be being slashed on those boards, now that the bloom is off that rose...

[Lahcim Leinad] No doubt! Paying attention to what is being said about NOK on SI is an absolute...

Lahcim Leinad — 1/29/2013 10:43:52 PM

No doubt!

Paying attention to what is being said about NOK on SI is an absolute waste of time.

Better brew up, instead!

Money and time way better spent.

[sense] This list appears that it has served its purpose... Seems its just another amo...

sense — 1/29/2013 7:05:09 PM

This list appears that it has served its purpose...

Seems its just another among many dead letters now...

Now I'm just following the charts rather than the message board re NOK...

Beer, on the other hand, is a far more serious subject...

[Lahcim Leinad] LOL! Just realized I posted this on the absolutely wrong thread. Meant for thi...

Lahcim Leinad — 1/29/2013 9:56:18 AM

LOL!

Just realized I posted this on the absolutely wrong thread.

Meant for this conversation to take place elsewhere.

Sorry!

[sense] "and was also used in religious practices. " Suddenly feeling very spiritual......

sense — 1/29/2013 4:51:27 AM

"and was also used in religious practices. "

Suddenly feeling very spiritual...

Sunday services featuring wide screen TV's and football ?

[Lahcim Leinad] I wonder about worldwide sales of radishes? Bet they're up, in parallel with PU....

Lahcim Leinad — 1/28/2013 10:35:48 AM

I wonder about worldwide sales of radishes?

Bet they're up, in parallel with PU. ;-)))

Which is the host and which is the parasite in the synergy???

Hard to tell if the radish got to Egypt from China before the Egyptians started brewing beer, or not...

Beer was part of the daily diet of Egyptian Pharaohs over 5,000 years ago. Then, it was made from baked barley bread, and was also used in religious practices. [14]

The role of beer in Egyptian society was far greater than just a drink. Often, beer was prescribed to treat various illnesses. Beer was considered to be the most proper gift to give to Egyptian Pharaohs, and it was also offered as a sacrifice to the gods. - WiKi

Radishes originated in China ... Before the pyramids were constructed, ancient Egyptian writing show that radishes were being cultivated - Radishes

[Road Walker] That's 990 million litres, or 2 billion pints. I wonder about worldwide sales o...

Road Walker — 1/28/2013 10:19:32 AM

That's 990 million litres, or 2 billion pints.

I wonder about worldwide sales of radishes? Which is the host and which is the parasite in the synergy???

[Lahcim Leinad] Hey, lookie here, we contributed to record sales of the dream stuff! Prazdroj e...

Lahcim Leinad — 1/28/2013 10:11:50 AM

Hey, lookie here, we contributed to record sales of the dream stuff!

Prazdroj exports record 920,000 hl of beer

That's 990 million litres, or 2 billion pints.

Means that little less than one third of the planet's population could have had a PU with a raddish. :-)

Cheers! (I mean later, not now.)

[Road Walker] I do think the industry, by kowtowing to the carriers, has been losing sight of ...

Road Walker — 9/14/2012 4:01:56 PM

I do think the industry, by kowtowing to the carriers, has been losing sight of what the primary utility is...

And what is that "primary utility"?

But, that there is obviously a brass ring hanging right there waiting to be grasped... doesn't mean anyone is doing what's necessary to do to enable grasping it... ?

Did you miss the 100's of millions of smartphones that have already been sold? Did you miss the brass ring of Apples stock being up 600% since they introduced the iPhone? If that wasn't a brass ring then they don't exist.

[sense] LOL!! Thus far... they've not been well received.. or, received at all ? There...

sense — 9/14/2012 2:38:02 PM

LOL!! Thus far... they've not been well received.. or, received at all ? There actually aren't any, yet, to be received ?

And, the reality of what's been shown as "concept"... is that it's not wowing anyone...

With the iPhone 5 also not really wowing anyone... it appears there's not really that much of a reason for consumers to engage with either company's products...

But, Apple being vulnerable in its excess conservatism isn't saying Nokia is in any position to benefit ?

I agree with the link Lacim posted discussing the CONSUMER... noting that it is utility and service to the end user that is the real issue... with more of a focus on what the device can do for you, than there is on the technical aspects of its comparitive performance...

That the companies marketing efforts address that more, now... doesn't mean that the devices are doing a good job in better meeting needs...

I think it's a bigger issue than Apple and Nokia... although it does look like Apple and Microsoft becoming more like each other over time in every element other than the difference in perception enabled by their branding...

There appears to be a deficit in innovation occurring... with the capability of the engineering on the hardware side vastly outstripping the pace of innovation in any truly valuable new "consumer utility" at this point...

For Nokia, in particular, I think they're going to have to provide a reason for consumers to brave the "issues" in the market to choose them instead of a competitor...

I don't think that's happening at the high end...

It's possible still that they've got more of an advantage with the lower end products... which the pundits in the market tends to ignore as "not the bleeding edge"...

I've not thought that all the way through, yet...

Have discussed it a couple of time in context of "price wars" coming to this market...

But, it does look to me like we're past the point where the early adopters have all made their choices... they'll upgrade to newer products, choosing those that do both comport with their brand image requirements, and wow them with new utility they have to have... but, real market growth appears it is likely to come from those who've not yet adopted the newer tech... who likely have different drivers in making the decision to get a more complex and more expensive device...

And, for that... the winners are more likely to be those devices that don't make things hard... that are intuitive enough that theres not really even a learning curve... so that "turn it on and it works" is the level of user involvement required in enabling FULL function... basically the same issues as MSFT and AAPL have warred over in the desktop space for decades, now...

I don't see that issue as eclipsing the consumer interest in having the devices be MORE USEFUL...

I do think the industry, by kowtowing to the carriers, has been losing sight of what the primary utility is...

And, that issue is roundly ignored by pretty much everyone...

Microsoft looks to me to be better positioned than anyone else to do something that will work...

But, the issue is Microsoft being Microsoft... in everything... as in their approach to software design

They have a potentially useful collection of parts...

I have little faith that they'll find a way to put them together and make them work... this decade...

I don't see a Jobs like leader... no Gates, or Woz, for that matter...

Nokia... has layered over all of its pre-existing problems by also positioning itself to inherit all of the self delusions and self limits that MSFT sustains... which doesn't appear to me it will enable them to succeed well enough to re-establish much relevance in the market...

Elop appears to have focused considerable effort in "fixing" the things in the institution that weren't broken... in order to better align NOK with MSFT's view of the world, while gradually surrendering more over time of what were NOK's primary strengths...

In my view... there's no shortage of potential... I do understand why many others think they HAVE to be able to make this work well enough to restore NOK at least to being something that looks survivable...

But, that there is obviously a brass ring hanging right there waiting to be grasped... doesn't mean anyone is doing what's necessary to do to enable grasping it... ?

[greenbeemer] Nok is not selling "crap". The Lumias have been well received and the 920 sound...

greenbeemer — 9/14/2012 8:07:56 AM

Nok is not selling "crap".
The Lumias have been well received and the 920 sounds like a kick ass phone.

[sense] "Nokia will be just fine. There are too many interests lined up to make it succe...

sense — 9/14/2012 12:31:15 AM

"Nokia will be just fine. There are too many interests lined up to make it succeed. QCOM, once a bitter enemy and the reason behind Nok's failure in the US imho, is now backing it strongly. MSFT too for obvious reasons. Telcos as well, needing a fractured marketplace instead of a duopoly. That's a lot of heavyweights with a vested interest. "

The issue is... none of those "heavyweights" have any ability that matters to FORCE consumers to buy crap that doesn't work... or stuff that doesn't appeal to them... for whatever reason. So, even if the only reason is that they shat themselves with the release, and focused all kinds of effort on lining up the "systemic support"... but still forgot to make a phone that anyone will actually WANT... ???

It's not all NOK's fault... because the industry is pretty screwed up... with imbalance in the market imposed by carriers... who don't have a reason I can see to have any impact at all on which phones consumers buy...

[sense] It's not a big deal... It shows Jack at the phone store, with a tech showing hi...

sense — 9/14/2012 12:22:26 AM

It's not a big deal... It shows Jack at the phone store, with a tech showing him a smart phone... clearly a spoof of Siri... He asks it to find the nearest Jack in the Box... it responds with X number of stores selling sox... two or three more like that... including answer "A yak is a long haired bovine"... Then, Jack says "I like things that work"... and launches into the sales pitch...

The only thing left out is a direct Siri reference...

[greenbeemer] I'm sure they will sell millions on iphone5s. But million others will be intere...

greenbeemer — 9/13/2012 7:46:13 AM

I'm sure they will sell millions on iphone5s. But million others will be interested in a brand new phone from a reputable manufacturer with wireless charging, a superior camera, new design, and interesting apps. It's an expanding market and there will be room for many worthy competitors.

Yes I'm long NOK just as I was (and still am) long QCOM, since 94. When many were doubting that CDMA actually worked lol.

[Tumbleweed] The iphone 5 appears underwhelming so far. The Lumia 920's specs blows it away....

Tumbleweed — 9/13/2012 2:30:33 AM

The iphone 5 appears underwhelming so far. The Lumia 920's specs blows it away. I think Nokia is back in the game in a big way.

Which one of those specs will make someone switch away from a phone they like or even love, from having to replace one hundred apps, and lose much or all the data accumulated in those apps?

[Cautious_Optimist] They need to forgo short term profit and build market share, should pay more att...

Cautious_Optimist — 9/12/2012 11:23:08 PM

They need to forgo short term profit and build market share, should pay more attention to unit sales than next quarters net. Wall Street will probably not be patient, but you never know if NOK is viewed wisely more like a start-up with a pipeline, than a mature cash cow.

If the value proposition is good against competition, customers will catch on, critical mass and then...

say hello to the return of the Crimson King.

youtu.be

[Zen Dollar Round] The iphone 5 appears underwhelming so far. The Lumia 920's specs blows it away...

Zen Dollar Round — 9/12/2012 11:15:20 PM

The iphone 5 appears underwhelming so far. The Lumia 920's specs blows it away.

Competing Android phones have always had spec advantages over the iPhone. It just doesn't matter. Only the most hardened geeks pay attention to all that spec nonsense. They'll still sell millions of iPhone 5's.

I think Nokia is back in the game in a big way.

Sounds like you're long Nokia. Good luck to you.

[greenbeemer] The iphone 5 appears underwhelming so far. The Lumia 920's specs blows it away....

greenbeemer — 9/12/2012 10:57:16 PM

The iphone 5 appears underwhelming so far. The Lumia 920's specs blows it away. I think Nokia is back in the game in a big way.

[Tumbleweed] Nokia, here's how to do a product launch. Short, to the point, contains availab...

Tumbleweed — 9/12/2012 2:07:48 PM

Nokia, here's how to do a product launch.

Short, to the point, contains availability, prices, carriers, product available in 9 days in 9 countries, and 100 countries in 3 months time when the Lumias will likely be struggling out on a late release of WP8 when they could have been available right now on Android.

Very very very poor decision to hobble Nokia to WP8. When Elop goes I reckon the share price will double. If there still is a Nokia. Why on earth would anyone wait for these phones?

[Lahcim Leinad] Yeah, I was dead wrong about the name, that's for sure. And the camera jab at N...

Lahcim Leinad — 9/12/2012 1:59:15 PM

Yeah, I was dead wrong about the name, that's for sure. And the camera jab at Nokia was funny.

I'm relocating back to the original thread, see you all there:

Nokia (NOK) Message Board - Msg: 28402451

[Tumbleweed] A nice little dig when showing iPhone 5 camera off; "Here's pictures from the ...

Tumbleweed — 9/12/2012 1:36:11 PM

A nice little dig when showing iPhone 5 camera off;

"Here's pictures from the iPhone 5. These are from the camera... untouched."

[Tumbleweed] I'll be surprised if they call it iPhone 5. [graphic] SUUUUURPRRRRRISE !!!!!...

Tumbleweed — 9/12/2012 1:17:38 PM

I'll be surprised if they call it iPhone 5.

SUUUUURPRRRRRISE !!!!!

[Lahcim Leinad] Tech leaders vacillate on iPhone 5, with growing anticipation of Windows 8 | ZDN...

Lahcim Leinad — 9/12/2012 9:38:00 AM

Tech leaders vacillate on iPhone 5, with growing anticipation of Windows 8 | ZDNet

Summary: The iPhone has made serious inroads in the enterprise, but tech executives aren't as excited about the next iPhone as they are about the potential of Windows 8 devices.

[Lahcim Leinad] Saw that. The tacky design stuff does not bother me. Dummying OS-X down to iOS...

Lahcim Leinad — 9/12/2012 9:03:01 AM

Saw that. The tacky design stuff does not bother me. Dummying OS-X down to iOS does.

But I have to agree: as far as I can tell from playing with W8, other than the stupid Metro start screen, it's just fine, and fast.

If Apple keeps screwing up - watch them NOT announce a refreshed Mac Pro today, again, going on two years - I might end up jumping the Apple fence altogether.

You read this?

BBC News - Viewpoint: Apple's iPhone launches no longer excite

[Road Walker] This is interesting, nicked from the Apple thread.... fastcodesign.com

Road Walker — 9/12/2012 8:59:07 AM

[Lahcim Leinad] I don't think so. Methinks the higher NOK goes before earnings, the higher the ...

Lahcim Leinad — 9/12/2012 8:54:53 AM

I don't think so. Methinks the higher NOK goes before earnings, the higher the short figure will go.

Now, if I'm wrong and there is no earnings warning, and the earnings turn out better than the shorts and I expect? Sky would be the limit as the shorts would scramble for the exits, while people on the sidelines like me would go long.

[Road Walker] They might start getting nervous... [Text Chart]

Road Walker — 9/12/2012 8:45:47 AM

[Lahcim Leinad] short positions on Nokia widening from 5.6 percent up to 15.3 percent as of Sept...

Lahcim Leinad — 9/12/2012 8:40:17 AM

short positions on Nokia widening from 5.6 percent up to 15.3 percent as of September 10th.

They're thinking what I'm thinking: earnings warning first, then disastrous earnings. All within the next five weeks.

[Lahcim Leinad] I'll be surprised if they call it iPhone 5. The last iPad is not called iPad 3,...

Lahcim Leinad — 9/12/2012 8:35:59 AM

I'll be surprised if they call it iPhone 5. The last iPad is not called iPad 3, though it is. It's called the new iPad. My guess is the same will go for the new iPhone.

Besides, if you really count, it's actually iPhone 6.

[Lahcim Leinad] I have no idea how the new iPhone will be received. I do know it'll take the pr...

Lahcim Leinad — 9/12/2012 8:34:04 AM

I have no idea how the new iPhone will be received. I do know it'll take the press' eyes off Nokia.

[Road Walker] Nokia (NOK) Erases Post-Lumia Debut Dip; Short Interest Increases in WP8 Launch ...

Road Walker — 9/12/2012 7:49:13 AM

Nokia (NOK) Erases Post-Lumia Debut Dip; Short Interest Increases in WP8 Launch

6:43 AM ET, 09/12/2012 - Street Insider
Shares of Nokia Corp. (NYSE: NOK) are ticking higher Wednesday morning on positive sentiment following a dip from the Lumia handset announcement on September 5th which, arguably, failed to impress investors and analysts alike.

The news isn't all giggles and hugs though; data from Markit has short positions on Nokia widening from 5.6 percent up to 15.3 percent as of September 10th.

But, Nokia is currently outpacing the Stoxx 600, up about 4 percent in Europe versus the Stoxx 600 at a 0.4 percent gain.

Other data for Nokia: the company may release an entry-level Windows Phone 7.5 later in 2012, according to a Digitimes report Tuesday. Additionally, third-quarter results are expected out on October 18th.

U.S. shares of Nokia are over 5 percent higher in the early session.

[Tumbleweed] Tomorrow, everyone will go gaga over the new - no, not 5 - "new iPhone." It w...

Tumbleweed — 9/12/2012 4:10:54 AM

Tomorrow, everyone will go gaga over the new - no, not 5 - "new iPhone."

It will be the 5. Surely you've seen the invite with a shadow of a 5?
Whats that about if its not going to be called the 5 ?

[Road Walker] Tomorrow, everyone will go gaga over the new - no, not 5 - "new iPhone." Maybe,...

Road Walker — 9/12/2012 3:54:52 AM

Tomorrow, everyone will go gaga over the new - no, not 5 - "new iPhone."

Maybe, but lately they've been received with disappointment. Is that good for NOK stock, if it happens? Got me.

[Lahcim Leinad] No new Nokia news tonite. Tomorrow, everyone will go gaga over the new - no, no...

Lahcim Leinad — 9/11/2012 10:04:14 PM

No new Nokia news tonite.

Tomorrow, everyone will go gaga over the new - no, not 5 - "new iPhone."

Yawn.

In any case, not much room there for Nokia hype, now is there?

So, what is next?

Elop holds a losings warning conference.

Then October 18th comes and really nails the coffin.

Just my never humble thinking out loud...

[Lahcim Leinad] Nokia may release new Windows Phone 7.5 smartphones for the entry-level segment

Lahcim Leinad — 9/11/2012 12:46:05 PM

[Lahcim Leinad] Yup, Samsung is NOT going to be a pushover. And I believe the fact the 920 ha...

Lahcim Leinad — 9/11/2012 11:53:56 AM

Yup, Samsung is NOT going to be a pushover.

And I believe the fact the 920 has no expansion slot nor a replaceable battery will hinder its sales, especially given its premium price.

After living with my Nokia 808 for a while, I cannot imagine buying a phone without this critically necessary expansion and battery flexibility.

It's tough to pick an overall winner from these three new phones, it's clear that they all fare far better against the 2012 competition, in terms of speed, size and components. Although I'm keen to try the Lumia 920's 'PureView phase 2' camera, I think (of the two) that I'd be leaning towards the Lumia 820's flexibility in terms of batteries and memory expansion. However, the ATIV S, providing Samsung can ship it in a reasonable time frame (before December?), is possibly the most exciting of the three, with the largest screen, decent speaker and excellent camera, plus battery flexibility/replacement and memory expansion - the best of all worlds for the mass market?

Looking ahead to the Windows Phone 8 generation for real excitement

[Lahcim Leinad] Nokia: a product or a service company? | NEXT Berlin

Lahcim Leinad — 9/11/2012 11:40:22 AM

[Road Walker] Nokia Siemens Looking to Divest BSS Unit as U.S. Telecos Spending Seen Flat in F...

Road Walker — 9/11/2012 8:41:15 AM

Nokia Siemens Looking to Divest BSS Unit as U.S. Telecos Spending Seen Flat in FY12 (NOK) (SI)6:39 AM ET, 09/11/2012 - Street Insider
Nokia Siemens -- the joint venture between Nokia (NYSE: NOK) and Siemens AG (NYSE: SI) -- may be in discussions with several parties over the sale of its business support systems (BSS) unit, according to CEO Rajeev Suri said Tuesday in India.

Suri has said that about six divestment have already taken place, all being non-core to mobile broadband or profitability not meeting expectations.

Nokia Siemens' restructuring is on track, noted Suri, with the effort about six weeks ahead of schedule.

Overall, Suri thinks spending by U.S. telecoms will be flat in 2012, with some rebound in investments during the second-half of the year.

Shares of Nokia and Siemens are both indicated higher ahead of the opening bell Tuesday.

[Lahcim Leinad] Nokia 808 PureView getting Mix Radio support with Belle Feature Pack 2 update | ...

Lahcim Leinad — 9/11/2012 8:34:51 AM

Nokia 808 PureView getting Mix Radio support with Belle Feature Pack 2 update | UnleashthePhones

[Lahcim Leinad] [youtube video]

Lahcim Leinad — 9/11/2012 8:33:24 AM

[Tumbleweed] Avoiding Android where Samsung is taking all the share? At least with WP8 they ...

Tumbleweed — 9/11/2012 2:47:25 AM

Avoiding Android where Samsung is taking all the share? At least with WP8 they have a shot at being the top dog in that ecosystem

But if they are tied to Softy, they cant take any of the users who like the phone but want Android. I would have thought that having an Android version in addition to WP8 would not cost too much more to do.

Its having WP8 only that i don't understand

[Lahcim Leinad] I still think Samsung is not going to let Nokia walk away with the W8 winnings. ...

Lahcim Leinad — 9/10/2012 6:20:27 PM

I still think Samsung is not going to let Nokia walk away with the W8 winnings.

In the US, a customer being confronted with a W8 phone that's a clone of the top of the line Samsung Android is going to be more tempted to go that tried and true route, than the - now to most US customers - "new" unknown and untried Nokia vendor.

Donno about the rest of the world. Shall see...

[Road Walker] Can you think of a single benefit Nokia get by being tied to Microsoft? Avoidin...

Road Walker — 9/10/2012 5:56:52 PM

Can you think of a single benefit Nokia get by being tied to Microsoft?

Avoiding Android where Samsung is taking all the share? At least with WP8 they have a shot at being the top dog in that ecosystem. With Android they'll always be a step behind Samsung and now Moto, owned by Google.

It's not a pleasant choice; two things have to go right. WP8 has to sell well, and Nokia has to win against the others starting at zero. But I think it's better than trying to climb out of the Android hole from zero market share.