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To: Eashoa' M'sheekha who wrote (88371)3/31/2003 3:30:43 PM
From: aladin  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
KC,

Not legally justified - like Kosovo. Then goes on to list the only ways in which war can be justified, but fails to note that the reasons specified do not and did not exist for Kosovo or any other war since WW2 except Gulf War 1.

So what exactly are you arguing for - consistency? If so then your argument falls apart.

John



To: Eashoa' M'sheekha who wrote (88371)3/31/2003 3:39:26 PM
From: Jacob Snyder  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
<quite interesting from a purely legal perspective>

No problem. Just dis-allow the "tu quoque" defense. Only allow our enemies' crimes as admissible to international courts. This is what we did at the Nurenburg trials.

One of the constants of international war crimes trials, is that only the losers are accused, and only the winners can accuse.

We are against the ICC, because we want to have the freedom to commit war crimes (as defined by the ICC), to pursue our national goals by force:
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To: Eashoa' M'sheekha who wrote (88371)3/31/2003 5:51:24 PM
From: The Philosopher  Respond to of 281500
 
"I chaired an international commission on Kosovo and we came to the conclusion
that, although illegal, it was legitimate


Huh? That destroys his entire argument.

What he is saying is that there is a law above international law which can justify actions. But this higher law isn't written down anywhere. So, where does it come from, and what are its standards, and how can he say Bush isn't following it?

He has destroyed his whole premise.



To: Eashoa' M'sheekha who wrote (88371)4/1/2003 12:55:45 AM
From: Nadine Carroll  Respond to of 281500
 
US Invasion of Iraq Puts International Law At Risk

One can hope.