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To: chessboard_andy who wrote (25879)4/21/2021 12:47:15 PM
From: slacker711
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Timing around the Q2 earnings release in July seems to be the key for CapEx announcements.

That is close enough for me. The official announcement doesn't matter much anyway. They have yet to officially announce the Guangzhou expansion but the Korean press is already saying that they are signing contracts for equipment.

If an announcement is coming in July, they will likely give some hints that they are considering it in their current earnings call.

One of the key reasons in favor of 10.5G glass was the extreme level of waste with 65" and 77" screens. Careful implementation of MMG mitigates that issue immensely. There is obvious demand for the 48" and 32" screens that can be built alongside the big screens to get back to 85%+ glass utilization. Perfecting, refining and speeding up MMG seems like a much more straight-forward engineering challenge.

The exact economics of the various fab sizes is hard to ascertain but I would note that LCD fabs can (and do) use MMG but Samsung is closing their Gen 8 LCD fabs due to competition from Gen 10.5 fabs in China. My guess is that despite the efficiencies, MMG adds to the cost of production and the fact that the very largest TV sizes (>80") arent supported hurts the overall profitability of the smaller fabs.

Regardless though, any new capacity should make sense at this point.

If LGD doesn't start new capacity this year, then we'll likely see TV panel shipments max out at roughly 10m units until a printable technology comes along. That would mean ink jet (which would be terrible for UDC) or waiting for OVJP (a 3-5 year pause would also be terrible for UDC).

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To: chessboard_andy who wrote (25885)4/21/2021 1:52:46 PM
From: Ravid.Ron
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I wasn't feel offended absolutely.
Don't care. Never mind.Focus on investment.

I think your writing is a reasonable question.

It is not easy to invest in Korean stocks and US stocks at the same time for 24 hours.
I need to take a rest for a while.

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To: slacker711 who wrote (25887)4/21/2021 1:53:36 PM
From: chessboard_andy
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If you are talking about LGD's 55" "screen equivalents" capacity, then the increase from 130K sheets per month to 160K sheets per month will bump capacity 20% from ~10m equivalent units to ~12m equivalent units.
If LGD doesn't start new capacity this year, then we'll likely see TV panel shipments max out at roughly 10m units until a printable technology comes along.
That 30K extra Guangzhou sheets was always noted in the plans for that facility, and as you noted it seems to be moving forward as we speak. That much growth is a given, but the timing remains to be seen.

If they only mention the extra 30K sheets in July, I will be disappointed. I am looking forward to that call as I do see it as important as to the direction of large scale production ramp. I don't anticipate too many hints about the ramp at the Q1 call although they may confirm the 30k at that time. I would see that as welcome confirmation, but it is already "baked in."

Beyond the 30K, it makes sense to delay as long as possible before committing to specifics, but they have already made clear that the transfer and growth of OLEDs in the large are display ecosystem is a long-term plan. As they make the transition, they must balance:
  • Maintaining their pricing power & margins as consumer acceptance and their customer base of OEMs grows. (If the Samsung reports are legit, that story is 100% complete.)
  • Any conversion of LCD capacity is tricky considering the great profitability they are getting from those lines in light of the current pricing of LCD panels. (I think there are either 1 or 2 8G lines that could be converted rather than taking up space at Paju or squeezing more equipment into the current footprint.
  • Waiting to see the developments and potential competition from the QD OLED tests at SDC as well as implementation of Mini LCD. If competing Premium TV technologies can aggressively undercut pricing within premium market, that could impact their growth plans. At this point as processes are refined, depreciation is moving forward and efficiencies are gained, that seems unlikely.
  • Waiting for the holy grail of direct deposit to have a breakthrough moment.

I think that last bullet of direct deposit is too unlikely to derail implementation of a growth plan utilizing the current production methods, which is my point of disagreement with you.

Obviously time will tell, and I am looking forward to the July Q2 conference call by LGD.


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To: slacker711 who wrote (25881)4/21/2021 2:04:51 PM
From: ynotgoal
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They have enough materials for at least 18 months of production

The increase in raw materials inventory is good. How did you come up with the 18 months figure?

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To: mikeemarc who wrote (25766)4/21/2021 2:43:41 PM
From: chessboard_andy
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Tech showcase site run by LG Display (not LG Electronics.) I love the fact that the "Store" link includes links to online and brick and mortar retailers all around the world and that the links take you to brand neutral searches for OLED Televisions regardless of OEM.

It also has a nice Media Feed and numerous featurettes. The entire site is available in English, Korean and Chinese.


Well done marketing site and worth a bookmark.

(If this has been previously posted I apologize for the duplication. I just happened upon it for the first time from the LG Display corporate site.)


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To: ynotgoal who wrote (25890)4/21/2021 5:09:11 PM
From: slacker711
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It is just a ballpark figure.

The inventory is held at cost so it represents roughly 20% of the potential sales revenue. $450m in material revenues is about half the consensus revs over the next 18 months. UDC should certainly have no problems holding off an raw material purchases for a few months if they know this is a short-term issue.

Surprisingly, the price of iridium isn't mentioned as a risk factor in their 10k. Maybe they have long-term contracts in place?

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To: slacker711 who wrote (25892)4/21/2021 6:17:51 PM
From: A.J. Mullen
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The price of iridium has been discussed a number of times. A month ago I'manoledfan warned:

This sharp increase in Iridium price could effect Universal Display's margins - and may result in an increase in material prices. UDC is bound in long-term agreements with its customers - but it could be that the price is tied to the price of Iridium, which could mean that the price of OLED panels may increase. SI 25719

Hours later, he wrote:

I'm sure UDC's management is keenly aware of supply and cost of iridium. It would not surprise me to find that they have a 2 year supply on hand, even with production set to double over the next few years. I forget how many cell displays can be made with a single gram but it is a lot of screens. Time will tell. SI 25711

I find the latter paragraph reassuring.

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To: Ravid.Ron who wrote (25880)4/21/2021 9:30:29 PM
From: DaYooper
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Please continue posting your translations of the news articles when you have time. We all appreciate it very much and we understand some translations are not perfect. No problem! And thank you for all the information you have provided over the last few years.

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From: I'manoledguy4/22/2021 9:07:08 AM
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Problem of catastrophic Oled lighting failures --a possible solution from UDC

By isolating and hermetically sealing individual pixels; any damage such as moisture and oxygen ingress due to defects or particles, delamination, cracking etc. can be effectively contained within the pixel thereby protecting other pixels in the panel.


The main external factor influencing the dark spot formation is the presence of humidity, dust particles, pinholes, spikes on ITO, short circuit, etc

Link to some good reading on topic above

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From: Dkjunior1434/22/2021 4:22:31 PM
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And the hits keep on coming ... woo hoo!

Visionox Technology, Inc. and Universal Display Corporation Extend Long-Term OLED Agreements

4:15pm ET, 04/22/2021 - Business Wire

HEFEI, China & EWING, N.J.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Apr. 22, 2021-- Universal Display Corporation (Nasdaq: OLED), enabling energy-efficient displays and lighting with its UniversalPHOLED® technology and materials, and Visionox Technology, Inc., a leading Chinese display panel manufacturer, today announced the extension of their long-term OLED material supply and license agreements. The agreements extend Universal Display’s supply of its proprietary UniversalPHOLED phosphorescent OLED materials and technology to Visionox Hefei Technology Co. Ltd. through its wholly-owned subsidiary UDC Ireland Limited. The new agreements run for five years. Further details and financial terms of the agreements have not been disclosed.

This press release features multimedia. View the full release here:

“It is an exciting time in the OLED market as new products are launched that showcase the benefits of innovative form factor, high contrast ratio, wide color gamut, rich color saturation and fast response times,” said Zhang Deqiang, President of Visionox Technology, Inc. “We are pleased to strengthen our partnership with Universal Display Corporation and extend our material and license agreements. Our collaboration with UDC enables us to reach our goal of providing best-in-class, energy-efficient, OLED displays in this growing industry.”

“We are pleased to expand and extend our long-term agreements with Visionox Technology to ensure the continued supply of our highly-efficient, high-performing, proprietary, phosphorescent materials for their broadening OLED product portfolio,” said Steven V. Abramson, President and Chief Executive Officer of Universal Display Corporation. “Visionox’s investments in OLED capacity, including its new Gen 6 flexible Hefei fab, are expected to help fuel the ongoing proliferation of cutting-edge OLEDs in the consumer electronics landscape. With our deep and broad experience and know-how of more than two-and-half decades of pioneering research, we are continually discovering, designing and delivering the best OLED emissive layer materials to support and enable the industry and look forward to further growing our partnership with Visionox.”

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