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To: Zen Dollar Round who wrote (210935)10/6/2021 4:28:54 PM
From: Doren
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> Apparently Apple did solicit feedback from professionals for the current Mac Pro, and look how long that took to come to market.

I was just thinking about this... its kind of astounding. Apple has ignored feedback from its users for decades. I've often thought ignoring your customers is ignoring a valuable asset. I almost never buy anything without looking at Amazon or Homedepot feedback. Its always perplexed me that companies ignore feedback or they give you feedback choices that don't apply.

I ALWAYS ask my customers to give me feedback, but they rarely do because over the years I've listened to them and fixed the things I did that they didn't like. I also try to put myself in their shoes.

The MacPro tube is indicative of why I'm glad Ive is gone... of all the people who don't need a fancy looking computer I would have guessed professionals don't care one bit... they want power and rock solid reliability and upgrade abilty (not going to get that last one of course) over everything else would be my guess. Seems to me that should have been a no brainer... and that Ive was a great bullshitter.

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To: Doren who wrote (210947)10/6/2021 5:02:21 PM
From: Zen Dollar Round
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AT&T's insurance company for iPhones truly sucks. They use Asurion and I tried to get a replacement for my mother's scratched iPhone 6S Plus so we could turn the replacement in for an upgrade to an iPhone 13 Pro.

Asurion tries to force everything through their automated systems online, which didn't work when I tried as it couldn't identify her phone. It finally gave us a phone number to call, and after talking with a pleasant but largely clueless worker drone, I was transferred to another number where someone supposedly could fix this issue.

The worker drone ended up screwing up the automated system so that every phone on the account was assigned to the same phone number now, so it's useless.

Got disconnected from the transferred call as it said the claim was invalid, and tried two more times with the same result. An email told us the same thing.

So, my parents have been paying every month for iPhone insurance they can't use with no way to fix it. I told them to cancel the insurance since it's just a waste of money if it's impossible to ever file a claim.

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To: Zen Dollar Round who wrote (210920)10/6/2021 5:39:28 PM
From: Doren
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OS security. The results are in. Kind of. If JF can find opposition stats I'd love to see them.

> I find it humorous you think Chromebooks are so much more secure than Macs or PCs.

(I didn't say "so much more" I said more secure than OSX. I think a little more but enough to use to bank online.)

OK I'd like to find real statistics where we'd know a percentage number for compromises/computer but... oh well. Can one trust a google search? I think we can't trust any corporations, they all lie and cheat... however...

Since MY intent to purchase of a Chromebook is mainly to avoid having to upgrade my browser on my older but otherwise perfectly functional Mac...

Economically buying an expensive new Mac and replacing perfectly good software with expensive and inferior software is a main goal. In addition the Chromebook I intend to buy will function as a googlemap on trips and a nice computer to use in bed while watching TV since the screen has touch capability and it works as a pad and "flips" in other words will stand up. It will also function as a better TV using youtube and wifi in hotel rooms rather than their shitty Spectrum TV. Again it stands up AND it has a nice screen. I can buy cheap memory cards or use a standard USB plug so I can carry a USB pen with movies, and TV shows.

In addition the Chrome vulnerabilities like fishing and apps won't be anything I'll fall for. I rarely use any apps, and I'll use only googleplay app downloads.

It just makes too much sense. Way more than an expensive Macbook. Plus I won't have to worry so much about losing it or damaging it... way cheaper at $341 today on Amazon.

I may buy an M1 someday but again economically I'm putting it off as long as possible.

Here are the results of a quick search:


This one seems the most statistical, and since its a non-profit specializing in security the most credible:

SECURITY.ORG: Do Chromebooks Need Antivirus Software?

There’s no question that, when it comes to viruses and other forms of malware, Chromebooks are safe. How safe? Well, the website CVE Details1 lists just 55 vulnerabilities for Chrome OS. Compare that to 1,111 vulnerabilities for Windows 10, and a whopping 2,212 for Mac’s OS X; with five percent as many vulnerabilities as its closest competitor, it’s a pretty simple matter to declare Chromebook the safest option.


DIGITAL TRENDS: OS security showdown

So what’s the best option if security is a prime concern?

I’d have to say Chrome OS. However, the limited functionality and restricted flexibility of the operating system make it a hard sell for anyone who wants something more out of their laptop than a web browser with a couple of add-ons installed can provide.

From a practical perspective, then, OS X is the obvious choice. Apple has proven itself to be one of the best at fighting off the bad guys, yet there’s also a broad range of software available. Not as much as Windows, to be sure, but enough for most users to get their feet wet.


COMPUTER WORLD: A Chromebook offers Defensive Computing when traveling

Without question, a Chromebook is safer than Windows, OS X, Linux, iOS or Android. Security is baked into the design.


REDDIT: What makes Chrome OS more secure than macOS? Discussion

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To: Zen Dollar Round who wrote (210949)10/6/2021 5:47:03 PM
From: Doren
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Many of my friends have had horrible experiences with ATT.

I spent months getting my business phone # back from them while they were charging me $80 a month... it started at $50 but I'd call it ATT creep... the charges just keep creeping up. I pay $13 a month now.

I hate them with a passion.

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From: NAG110/7/2021 11:15:25 AM
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2 nice articles on Ped30

First, some App Store numbers from Katy Huberty which are looking ok

The next talks about Apple taking Car Play to the next level

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To: Doren who wrote (210950)10/7/2021 12:34:20 PM
From: Zen Dollar Round
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A bit OT for this thread perhaps, but thought you'd want to know, Doren:

Linux is now 'usable as a basic desktop' for M1 Macs - 9to5Mac

After almost a year of a project to port Linux to the M1 Macs, news looked better than worse. By the end of June, Linux Kernel was available to Macs with Apple’s proprietary processor, and now the creators of the project are saying Linux is now “usable as a basic desktop.”

According to the progress report of September, Asahi Linux is running better than ever, although it still lacks GPU acceleration on M1 Macs as the team approached version 5.16 of the software.

The team was able to merge some drivers such as PCIe bindings, PCIe drive, and USB-C PD drive. Princtrl drive, I2C driver, ASC mailbox driver, IOMMU 4K patches, and Device Power Management are still in review.
“On typical SoCs, drivers have intimate knowledge of the underlying hardware, and they hard-code its precise layout: how many registers, how many pins, how things relate to each other, etc. This is effectively a requirement for most SoCs, because hardware tends to vary quite a bit from generation to generation, so drivers always require changes to support newer hardware.

However, Apple is unique in putting emphasis in keeping hardware interfaces compatible across SoC generations – the UART hardware in the M1 dates back to the original iPhone! This means we are in a unique position to be able to try writing drivers that will not only work for the M1, but may work –unchanged– on future chips as well. This is a very exciting opportunity in the ARM64 world.
According to the blog post, the team will still need to wait for the M1X/M2 chips launch to make sure if they succeed in making enough drivers forwards-compatible to boot Linux on newer chips.

As for now, Linux on the M1 Macs keeps looking promising as the operating system gets faster in these machines, thanks to the new drivers:
With these drivers, M1 Macs are actually usable as desktop Linux machines! While there is no GPU acceleration yet, the M1’s CPUs are so powerful that a software-rendered desktop is actually faster on them than on e.g. Rockchip ARM64 machines with hardware acceleration.

While there are certainly many rough edges and missing drivers, getting to this point allows development to be self-hosted and developers to eat their own dogfood. Alyssa has been doing just that, using her M1 Mac running her own kernel merges as a daily driver.
If you want to read the full report of how the progress of Linux on M1 Mac is going, click here.


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To: Doren who wrote (210950)10/7/2021 3:49:13 PM
From: Zen Dollar Round
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That is good to know, thank you.

One thing that leaps out at me though is the relative safety of the ChromeOS compared to Google Chrome, the web browser.

My argument was based on Google Chrome being compromised, not ChromeOS running on a Chromebook. Big difference.

Now, it could be argued that many of the exploits on Chrome leverage specific problems on Mac and PCs and their file systems that aren't inherent on ChromeOS, I just don't know.

I do know that at least some of the zero day exploits work through Chrome itself and have nothing to do with the underlying OS. This is evident in the fact that some of the zero days patched affect both Macs and PCs.

The other factor here is the low market share of ChromeOS. Apple used to tout their invincibility to malware too. They even made a commercial about it and print ads too.

Apple doesn't do that any longer.

If Chrome ever gains real traction in the marketplace beyond schools (students and schools are not rich targets for ransomware), I expect the amount of malware out there for ChromeOS will increase substantially.

Just ask Apple.

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To: Zen Dollar Round who wrote (210954)10/7/2021 5:21:29 PM
From: Doren
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I didn't and don't think the ratios were real world. A vulnerability doesn't mean anyone has exploited it.

But I do think Chrome is about as safe as OSX and most likely Chrome and Safari are roughly equivalent. I worry much more about corporate laxity. I use cash for almost every thing I can't deduct, never ceases to amaze me people will use a card to pay for something at the Dollar Store. I use paypal for websites of smaller companies I feel probably don't spend as much on security experts.

Details1 lists just 55 vulnerabilities for Chrome OS. Compare that to 1,111 vulnerabilities for Windows 10, and a whopping 2,212 for Mac’s OS X; with five percent as many vulnerabilities as its closest competitor, it’s a pretty simple matter to declare Chromebook the safest option.

Like I said I may buy another Mac, particularly if my plans work out when I sell my home. But it'll be an iMac, not a portable. and it'll have OSX on it, I don't like screwing around with OS's. OSX is still better than the alternatives running software.

I'm just going to buy the Chrome book to surf the web, get emails, check my bank account with an up to date browser. I'd never do that with Windows... they are just lazy jerks over there in Redmond. Why they haven't improved their OS is beyond me.

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To: Doren who wrote (210955)10/8/2021 7:19:43 AM
From: Zen Dollar Round
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A vulnerability doesn't mean anyone has exploited it.
Of course not, but with an increasing number of reports that patched zero days have been exploited, the trend is going in the wrong direction.

Fact is, most zero day exploits that we know about are targeted attacks at specific individuals from very well-funded state sponsors.

So far...

However, once a zero day exploit is known and patched, the methods uses are often published or often show up on the dark web for hackers to purchase and use against those who are behind in keeping up with security on their electronic devices –– namely people like you.

The big difference here is you know about these risks yet choose to do almost nothing about them.

You can continue to bury your head in the sand and refuse to update your sometimes decade old computers and software, just be aware of the danger you're putting yourself into. I guess you'll be safe until you aren't.

An example of this is the switch to the HTTPS protocol over HTTP for a more secure internet, and your anger about it. Instead of looking at yourself and your staunch refusal to upgrade as the culprit, you choose to blame Google for the change because you can't use an outdated version of macOS and an outdated web browser that are years past their sell-by date.

You're literally the only person I know who is having problems using your choice of web browser and can't reach some websites due to your stubbornness about these changes.

The world is changing and you are very slow to do the same, at least in computer terms.

Adapt or die, it's simply evolution at work.

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To: Doren who wrote (210955)10/8/2021 9:51:40 AM
From: Zen Dollar Round
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While most hacks today are the low hanging fruit of big business that doesn't adequately protect their corporate networks, it's only a matter of time until ransomeware hackers figure out how to create ransomeware for individuals in a large scale way, IMHO.

The Biggest Hacks of 2021 (So Far)

Kaseya ‘Ransomware
Apocalypse’ SolarWinds
Megabreach Microsoft Exchange
Hackathon Colonial Pipeline’s
DarkSide Intrusion
Twitch Data Dump CNA’s $40 Million
Ransom JBS Meets REvil Metropolitan Police Department
Exposed Accellion’s Oil Spillover Flaw

Original post from Don Green: All Things Technology - Media and Know HOW Message Board - Msg: 33521926 (

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