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From: Zen Dollar Round	7/23/2020 5:44:55 PM
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Rumor, rumor, rumor Apple to push back iPhone 12 event to late October: report Fans of iPhone will probably have to wait at least another month before shiny new models are unveiled. Apple Inc. AAPL is delaying its annual fall event until the latter half of October instead of early September, according to a tech blog. The company was forced to push back the event for the 5G-compatible iPhone 12 line because of production delays caused by the pandemic, the Japanese Apple blog Mac Otakara reported. Apple is expected to announce four new iPhones, with the 5G models available in November. Apple shares are up 26.5% this year. The broader S&P 500 index SPX is up 0.2% in 2020. Link: marketwatch.com

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To: oldbeachlvr who wrote (209199)	7/23/2020 6:08:53 PM
From: Doren	of 212423

Its not the consumer protection probe... does anyone think that Apple can't crush that? Its the wider market... and unemployment... I don't know why people thought that opening up businesses when the pandemic was just raging would make people invulnerable... it was obvious it would make it worse and it did. Way worse. So people went back to work for a short time, and gosh unemployment looked a little better!!! Now they are getting laid off again, and its going to get worse with multiple businesses facing bankruptcy.

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To: Zen Dollar Round who wrote (209206)	7/23/2020 8:26:07 PM
From: handyman	of 212423

Today I bought some shares after being out for several months. Apple will be one of the biggest beneficiaries once the virus is tamed by a vaccine and that seems inevitable. A few days ago it was about to go over 400 so today looked like a bargain to me.

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To: Doren who wrote (209205)	7/24/2020 2:24:38 AM
From: clochard	of 212423

It looks like Apple abandoned Intel just in time. Intel's x86 was always the VHS of processor architecture and it looks like its dragging them into the abyss.

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To: clochard who wrote (209209)	7/24/2020 5:59:48 AM
From: Doren	of 212423

I thought you guys would like that.

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To: clochard who wrote (209209)	7/24/2020 8:12:11 AM
From: Zen Dollar Round	of 212423

Intel's x86 was always the VHS of processor architecture LOL. A very apt analogy, thank you.

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To: clochard who wrote (209209)	7/24/2020 8:34:50 AM
From: OrionX	1 Recommendation of 212423

Agree with the VHS analogy however isn't Intel's problem more to do with manufacturing process, 7nm etc, rather than the processor? Or are the two linked?

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To: OrionX who wrote (209212)	7/24/2020 9:46:51 AM
From: clochard	5 Recommendations of 212423

Intel's x86 is a complex and ugly architecture that infested the personal computer market only because they could produce them in large quantities and sell them well, in contrast to other companies with better ideas but poor execution. Intel's problems with 5mm are likely due to the Rube Goldberg complexity being too error-prone at these dimensions and speeds.

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To: clochard who wrote (209213)	7/24/2020 1:02:38 PM
From: Stock Puppy	of 212423

Yup - remember way back in the good old days of Motorola 68xxx vs - Intel; 68xxx was far far superior, but Moto dropped the ball and Intel leapfrogged away. Heh heh - "68xxx - supercomputer"

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To: clochard who wrote (209213)	7/24/2020 2:14:53 PM
From: Jeff Hayden	3 Recommendations of 212423

The "complex and ugly architecture" is likely more important than Intel's flailing around in chip geometry. I think Apple is tired of trying to get x86 chips to do what it needs. They really want to merge iOS, iPadOS and macOS, and find they can't do it with x86. Intel's geometry problem just helped them to start the conversion earlier.

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