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To: Doren who wrote (206786)11/14/2019 5:40:42 PM
From: Kurthend
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Ref: What I really want from the techies is AI controlling stop lights... so I can drive without stopping and wasting gas and polluting the air every 3 minutes. Not going to happen.

Actually, most major cities and even medium size cities have that, but you have to be in law enforcement, firefighters, EMTs, etc. Push a button and the light stays green or turns green for the emergency vehicle. Neat device:)

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To: Kurthend who wrote (206820)11/14/2019 9:26:46 PM
From: JP Sullivan
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Actually, most major cities and even medium size cities have that, but you have to be in law enforcement...

I remember driving in Germany back in the late 1980s and there were stretches of road with signs saying if you drove at a certain speed all the lights would be green by the time you got to them. I tried and it worked! I doubt if any AI was involved then.

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To: JP Sullivan who wrote (206821)11/14/2019 10:05:30 PM
From: Kurthend
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:). The good ole days driving in Germany in the 80s. Just stay in the right lane unless passing while on the autobahn:). I do miss them thar days.

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To: JP Sullivan who wrote (206821)11/14/2019 10:20:04 PM
From: J.F. Sebastian
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You don't need AI for such light timing. Most cities have lights synchronized to go green if no one else is on the road. It has existed since at least the late 70's.

Many people don't realize it, but there are sensors in the asphalt that detect when cars are on them approaching and at stoplights. If you go the speed limit, lights will turn green for you as you move along your way.

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To: Kurthend who wrote (206822)11/15/2019 2:12:46 AM
From: JP Sullivan
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Absolutely! :-))

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To: J.F. Sebastian who wrote (206823)11/15/2019 4:36:49 AM
From: Doren
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OT. Nope. Not LA not San Diego. For example if you drive Point Loma Blvd the large intersections are timed and the small intersections are tripped, pretty much guaranteeing you are going to hit most of them red. In fact most of the large streets are that way.

Its about as stupid as it gets... every time I see one car tripping a light and stopping 15 cars... arrrgh!

There are so many things that burn me up about road design. Tons of wasted gas... tons of emissions... easy fixes that don't get done.

It IS complicated in a big city with large streets, but AI could fix it. Should all be timed, so if you have to wait on a small street you won't once you're on a thoroughfare. Thoroughfares should get precedence. It should be legal to proceed once you've stopped at a red light and determined its safe to proceed. We can do it on right turns and it works fine.

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To: Doren who wrote (206825)11/15/2019 6:17:55 AM
From: J.F. Sebastian
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I take the fact you live in California with a grain of salt.

That state is so effed up in so many ways I can't even count them all.

The fact you don't have synchronized stoplights surprises me very little, if true.

You've tested this in L.A. and San Diego by going the speed limit through intersections up to the next light, extensively, late at night with no other traffic around? How often do you even find yourself with no traffic around in such congested urban areas?

You don't see any pavement sensors in the middle of the street, you know, those large circles or squares with the rounded off corners in the road, anywhere?

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To: Kurthend who wrote (206820)11/15/2019 9:18:12 AM
From: OldAIMGuy
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Re: AI controlling stop lights.


Roundabouts are a very low tech way to accomplish much of the same thing......

:-)

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To: OldAIMGuy who wrote (206827)11/15/2019 9:40:04 AM
From: J.F. Sebastian
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They've put in a number of roundabouts in my local area, they are effective and work well most of the time, except when people unfamiliar with how they work try to go through them.

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From: Moonray11/15/2019 11:42:05 AM
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Apple hires pro-Trump lobbyist as it tries to avoid
tariffs on iPhone parts and other products

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