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To: Sam who wrote (1236)6/12/2024 9:28:47 PM
From: TigerPaw
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the leaders of Hamas believe that they are winning.

Hamas is certainly not winning the war, but they are forcing Israel to make public that their goal is to chase all the Muslim out of the West Bank and Gaza to expand the size of Israel. Hamas is only winning if the rest of the world cares.

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To: TigerPaw who wrote (1241)6/12/2024 9:46:59 PM
From: S. maltophilia
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What doesn't come from Israel is mostly from people directly or indirectly taking from the public trough.

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To: TigerPaw who wrote (1242)6/13/2024 2:56:37 PM
From: Sam
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That is only the goal of a maybe 10-15% of Israelis. It correlates with the goal of Hamas to eliminate Jews from Palestine. Minorities in both Israel and Gaza are running this show right now. Until the majorities find a way to assert themselves, the whole area will continue to be a tinderbox.

One thing that is not helpful is for people to not recognize the humanity and the goals of the majorities of both sides. The group Combatants for Peace is trying their best to overcome the huge hurdles to that goal in the midst of war.

This is from a long time FB friend:

Osama and Maoz, two men from different backgrounds - one Palestinian and one Israeli, that have faced tragic loss and pain and despite this continue to stand for peace.

Osama shares about his first CfP encounter: "A friend invited me to a meeting in Beit Jala. When I arrived, I discovered there were Israelis there. At first I refused to sit or talk to them, so I sat on the side. I heard an Israeli woman say, “We’re allowed to defend ourselves and we’re allowed to defend our people, but what happened in Gaza – to blow up a whole building and kill several families to take out one terrorist, that’s not acceptable to me. That is not my people, that is not my army.”

That moment changed my life. I wanted to hug her. After that I kept meeting with Israelis, learning about them – befriending them. My entire perspective shifted. I went to more and more joint gatherings. I met people, who only years before were my enemy – who might have shot bullets in the direction of me or my friends. Yet today we work together for peace, justice, security, equality and dignity.

I know that we can only heal this situation if we work together. We can only end this conflict, and heal the sorrow and pain of both our nations, if we work together cooperatively and peacefully. Peace cannot come through war. Freedom will only come when we break out of the chains that bind us: the chains of hatred, of violence and of revenge."


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From: S. maltophilia6/13/2024 3:38:36 PM
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.......Over the next few weeks, the Israeli authorities questioned Professor Shalhoub-Kevorkian for more than 17 hours in several lengthy sessions, delving into her books and views on a variety of subjects, according to her lawyers.

“The police have already exceeded the authority given to them by asking her about other statements and things that are her opinions,” said Mazen Masri, senior lecturer of law at City University of London and a member of the professor’s legal team.

Alaa Mahajna, her lead lawyer in Jerusalem, said: “The message is clear — no dissent from the Zionist consensus is allowed.”

The Israeli police and national security ministry did not respond to requests for comment......

nytimes.com

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From: Sultan6/14/2024 1:28:29 PM
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“And two fishermen, seeking food for their families, shot dead on the beach in front of us.”

—James Elder, UNICEF spokesperson


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From: Sultan6/14/2024 10:00:51 PM
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To: Sultan who wrote (1247)6/14/2024 10:14:31 PM
From: S. maltophilia
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Yeah, but somebody spit in the general direction of an Israeli.

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To: S. maltophilia who wrote (1248)6/15/2024 2:15:17 PM
From: Sam
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Today marks the 17th anniversary of the 2007 Gaza civil war between Hamas and Fatah political factions. Hamas violently seized complete control of Gaza, crushing many Gazans' hopes for the future.

Hamas murdered hundreds of Palestinians during the war, notably throwing Gazans off rooftops and forcing them to live under their terrorist rule. Whether or not they were democratically elected the year before, in this civil conflict, Hamas solidified their authoritarian regime.

For 17 years, Hamas has waged terror against both their own people and Israelis. They are single-minded in their pursuit of killing Jews and establishing a single Islamist state. Their October 7th attack pushed their agenda into the world spotlight.

Yet, instead of finally condemning Hamas and working to revive the peace process to give Palestinians a better future, much of the international community is now rallying in support of this terrorist regime.

Palestinians deserve a future free from Hamas.


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From: Sultan6/15/2024 2:25:55 PM
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"The only moral thing Palestinian civilians can do apparently is to die. The only legal thing the rest of us can do is to watch them die. And be silent. If not, we risk our scholarships, grants, lecture fees & livelihoods." -

- Arundhati Roy


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From: S. maltophilia6/15/2024 3:53:14 PM
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Target practice.

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