| To: Brumar89 who wrote (215666) | 10/26/2021 12:16:39 PM | | From: Bill | | | | | You seem to think the legacy media would have a duty to publicize political gossip about Trump's lovelife, right? You think it's a campaign issue. Well, Twitter blocked a legitimate campaign issue. Maybe they should be prosecuted. |
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| To: Lane3 who wrote (215662) | 10/26/2021 12:43:36 PM | | From: i-node | | | | >> The one on the table was evidence that Hemingway or anyone else might to demonstrate that the D's "used covid to rig" the election.
The proof of that is easy. They admitted it.
Rahm Emanuel, in a WaPo opinion piece, made it clear: "Let's Make Sure This Crisis Doesn't Go to Waste" (March 25, 2020). A Democrat party leader makes it clear the race to corrupt the process is on.
Wisconsin (and Dewine's cancellation in Ohio) provided the basic realization that Covid would be the way forward for stealing (or "rigging" if you like that better) the election.
Wisconsin's Evers said, "Having as many absentee ballots as possible is absolutely top priority" (which Jimmy Carter himself declared the greatest threat to our election integrity only about four or five presidential elections ago); nothing had changed. This took a pretty unimportant election in Wisconsin and made it the model that established the outer limits for what they could get away with during COVID. And demonstrated the intent to steal the elections.
From there the entire election process snowballed. An academic organization that tracked the litigation found more than FIVE HUNDRED cases over the ensuing months. You had the teachers unions and AFL-CIO, the SEIU, everybody who was anybody getting in the act to demand expansion of high-risk mail-in balloting and to permit vote counting to extend well past Election Day.
They lied. They claimed Wisconsin was going to become a "super spreader" with absolutely no evidence to that effect. Carville said [Republicans] would kill people to stay in power. Of course, there was no such superspreader event, but I don't think the media ever reported on those numbers. Did you hear it?
It is pretty hard to make a cogent argument that COVID wasn't used to rig the election. It was the predicate for essentially all of the manipulations to established procedures, for Zuckerberg's private funding of election operations with string attached, for the move to mail-in and absentee balances inappropriately, the lies to voters about claiming they were confined to be able to vote absentee, all of it.
What there wasn't is a document that said, "We're going to break the law to steal this election" -- which apparently is the only evidence you'll accept on which to base an accusation against Democrats.
Meanwhile, you require the weakest cases of hearsay to claim Trump is evil, even if the hearsay has long been disproved.
Honesty, from Democrats, is gone. Very disappointing to see it happen in you, but it is a sort of disease. AFAIK there is no cure, no treatment. |
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| From: Ron | 10/26/2021 12:45:20 PM | | | | | | After crying fraud, Republicans go silent when Nevada ally is charged with voting twice
Days after the November 2020 election, Kirk Hartle appeared on Las Vegas television, his brow furrowed and voice tinged with disbelief.
Someone, he said, had intercepted the ballot mailed to his wife, Rosemarie, and cast it in her stead. Rosemarie Hartle died of breast cancer in 2017.
"That is pretty sickening to me, to be honest with you," Hartle told KLAS-TV.
For President Trump, his campaign surrogates and their champions in the conservative media, it was an outrage and, they claimed, a mere hint of the widespread fraud that cost Trump not just Nevada's six precious electoral votes
Last week, the state's Democratic attorney general, working with Nevada's Republican secretary of state, announced that investigators had cracked the case. Hartle, 55, was charged with two counts of fraud: voting more than once in the same election and voting using another person's name. He allegedly forged his late wife's signature to cast the ballot she'd been sent.
He is a registered Republican and the chief financial officer of Ahern Rentals, a heavy-equipment leasing firm in Las Vegas whose owner, Don Ahern, is a prominent Trump supporter.
latimes.com |
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| To: Brumar89 who wrote (215664) | 10/26/2021 12:45:50 PM | | From: i-node | | | | >> If Cohen broke a law, then Trump, who asked him to do it, did as well.
That is not how the law works. C breaks law therefore T broke law?
>> he DID serve time for it.
People serve time for laws they didn't break ALL THE TIME. There are thousands of people doing just that at this moment. Ever heard of a "plea bargain"? |
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| To: Brumar89 who wrote (215665) | 10/26/2021 12:48:45 PM | | From: i-node | | | | >> so does inode and Mollie Hemingway.
He lost the election. And Hemingway would say the same.
But the election was rigged. Which means it doesn't really count as a loss. That would be unfair to millions of voters as well as to Trump himself. It is far closer to being a stolen election than it is to being a fair one.
In this country, we should not have allowed it. Democrats cannot be allowed to recover from that.
Perhaps Biden is God's punishment for Democrats being so fucking stupid. |
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| To: Bill who wrote (215667) | 10/26/2021 12:56:15 PM | | From: Brumar89 | | | | If you think the press should be prosecuted for stuff they don't cover, you really don't believe in a free press. You apparently think the govt should issue orders to the media telling them what to print and what to say about it.
This is why I find Trumpers fundamentally un-American or even anti-American. |
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| To: i-node who wrote (215670) | 10/26/2021 12:59:42 PM | | From: Brumar89 | | | | You have a weird view of the law. Some people (Cohen) who do something are guilty and others (Trump) aren't.
People serve time for laws they didn't break ALL THE TIME. There are thousands of people doing just that at this moment. Ever heard of a "plea bargain"?
People who take plea bargains are GUILTY. |
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| To: i-node who wrote (215671) | 10/26/2021 1:07:31 PM | | From: Brumar89 | | | | He lost the election. And Hemingway would say the same.
Of course.
But the election was rigged. Which means it doesn't really count as a loss. That would be unfair to millions of voters as well as to Trump himself. It is far closer to being a stolen election than it is to being a fair one.
The election wasn't rigged. Your own efforts to claim it was rigged and stolen break down to a claim that too many black people voted because of Zuckerberg's efforts to get out the inner city vote. That's not rigging or stealing and I'm sure you know it. If the Koch brothers did the same to promote rural voters that would be legit as well.
An example, allowing mail in ballots for older voters (like TX does) amounts to a way to get more votes for older voters. Perfectly legit and Republicans benefit from it.
In this country, we should not have allowed it. Democrats cannot be allowed to recover from that.
That;s just you being a sore loser. Perhaps Biden is God's punishment for Democrats being so fucking stupid.
All the mistakes Biden will make are punishment just like Trump's mistakes were. |
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| To: Brumar89 who wrote (215672) | 10/26/2021 1:11:28 PM | | From: Bill | | | | Actually, it is your support campaign finance charges against Trump for his effort to suppress news of his private life that is anti-American. A ridiculous proposition.
Yet when Twitter suppressed news of Biden's malfeasance to influence an election, you think that's great. |
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