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To: bentway who wrote (215644)10/26/2021 12:08:19 AM
From: Thomas M.
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The charging statement explicitly says the payment involved personal benefit. And the statute is crystal clear that it is not a crime if personal benefit is involved.

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Tom

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To: Thomas M. who wrote (215648)10/26/2021 12:09:59 AM
From: bentway
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So, why did Cohen go to prison? Are you a lawyer, because he is.

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To: Thomas M. who wrote (215648)10/26/2021 12:19:55 AM
From: puborectalis
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As the House investigation into the Jan. 6 attack heats up, some of the planners of the pro-Trump rallies that took place in Washington, D.C., have begun communicating with congressional investigators and sharing new information about what happened when the former president’s supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol. Two of these people have spoken to Rolling Stone extensively in recent weeks and detailed explosive allegations that multiple members of Congress were intimately involved in planning both Trump’s efforts to overturn his election loss and the Jan. 6 events that turned violent.

Rolling Stone separately confirmed a third person involved in the main Jan. 6 rally in D.C. has communicated with the committee. This is the first report that the committee is hearing major new allegations from potential cooperating witnesses. While there have been prior indications that members of Congress were involved, this is also the first account detailing their purported role and its scope. The two sources also claim they interacted with members of Trump’s team, including former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, who they describe as having had an opportunity to prevent the violence.

(This Coup attempt like the one in Turkey failed.)

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To: bentway who wrote (215649)10/26/2021 12:23:41 AM
From: Thomas M.
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Because a corrupt federal judge (Democrat) accepted a guilty plea for legal behavior.

This is why conservatives complain about activist liberal judges.

Tom

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To: puborectalis who wrote (215650)10/26/2021 1:12:44 AM
From: i-node
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Re: Jan 6:

Who is Ray Epps? That is going to have to be explained. If he is, as suspected, a federal agent, the Jan 6 story unravels instantly. Same as the Mueller investigation, same as the bogus impeachments, same as every other false allegation smear you guys tried. Same as the election theft lies.

It all falls apart.

If Ray Epps is a federal agent.

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To: bentway who wrote (215639)10/26/2021 1:31:33 AM
From: i-node
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Why are you stuck on Cohen? That’s all been prosecuted and is done at this point. Seems like you’re just stuck on one of your great hopes that fell through.

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To: bentway who wrote (215647)10/26/2021 3:01:21 AM
From: i-node
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>> Subpoena refusnik Bannon floats a conspiracy theory we've heard here, but blaming Merrick Garland

I'm not really a Bannon fan as you know.

But I can't disagree with one word he said. IF the Revolver story is true, and it at the very least it leaves questions that Merrick Garland needs to respond to. If he doesn't the entire Jan 6 situation disintegrates.

It is serious shit and could bring down a lot of mouthy politicians.

It just depends on what is uncovered about Ray Epps, and at some point that is going to come out.

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To: bentway who wrote (215644)10/26/2021 3:04:16 AM
From: i-node
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>> It can be, when an election is involved, and it seems to have been in this case. Cohen went to prison.

You are way, far away from the facts on Cohen, who was in jail for campaign finance violations, tax evasion and lying to congress. Trump did none of these things. Didn't even have a role in any of them. Which is why he hasn't been arrested on these fake charges.

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To: combjelly who wrote (215629)10/26/2021 3:08:52 AM
From: i-node
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I think that is a pretty good question for you to ponder. Why ARE most the law suits over behaviors in BLUE states, NOT RED?

You could be onto something, numbnuts.

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To: Lane3 who wrote (215622)10/26/2021 3:13:35 AM
From: i-node
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>> It was off topic re our colloquy, which was about whether the election rules changes in the states were intended to protect voters from covid or whether they were intended to rig the election and about speculation vs evidence wrt that.

If you think WS, where all this horseshit began, is not important, then you really aren't grasping the basics. Wisconsin was the model for the operation and proved it could be done efficiently and if the courts were willing to cheat a little, they could get away with it.

Damn. And they're irrelevant?

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