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To: Lane3 who wrote (215605)10/25/2021 8:46:56 PM
From: i-node
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Kellyanne has nothing, AFAIK, with the chronic lying of the left. It is weird, but it is clearly a problem.

I’m okay laughing at it though.

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To: i-node who wrote (215600)10/25/2021 10:21:36 PM
From: bentway
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Michael Cohen named Trump as 'Individual-1'. Here's why prosecutors haven't identified him in court.

The use of “Individual-1” seems like a bulky and unnecessary contrivance. But what's actually going on here?

nbcnews.com

By Chuck Rosenberg, former United States attorney and MSNBC legal analyst

In recent court filings and in open court, President Donald Trump has been identified as “Individual-1” in a federal criminal probe. Based on court documents, it also seems reasonably clear that the president — by whatever name you call him — is deeply (and perhaps criminally) implicated in federal election law crimes committed by his former personal attorney, Michael Cohen. As a recent filing by Manhattan federal prosecutors notes, “Individual-1” (the president) directed Cohen to make payments to two women to conceal his sexual relationship with them. Cohen admitted that this conduct was a crime — indeed, Cohen pled guilty to it in a Manhattan federal courtroom and was sentenced Wednesday to three years in prison.

Why didn’t prosecutors simply name the president as the man who directed Cohen to make those payments? The use of “Individual-1” seems like a bulky and unnecessary contrivance. The U.S. Attorneys' Manual (a guidebook for federal prosecutors) supplies an answer:

"Ordinarily, there is no need to name a person as an unindicted co-conspirator in an indictment [or other court document] in order to fulfill any legitimate prosecutorial interest or duty…. In any indictment where an allegation that the defendant conspired with 'another person or persons known' is insufficient, some other generic reference should be used, such as 'Employee 1' or 'Company 2.'”..

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To: bentway who wrote (215636)10/25/2021 10:25:28 PM
From: Thomas M.
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Yes, Cohen and Trump allegedly conspired ... to do something that is 100% legal.

They paid someone not to talk to the media. You'd have to be a real idiot to think that's a crime.

Tom

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To: Thomas M. who wrote (215623)10/25/2021 10:26:44 PM
From: bentway
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Trump always worries about stuff that is crucial to Americans, Tommy! Trump can't punch on dead McCain, so he trashes his daughter. Very on brand, and the brand is total crap.

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To: Thomas M. who wrote (215637)10/25/2021 10:28:26 PM
From: bentway
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Yet, somehow, Cohen went to prison! And is still in home confinement. Are you a moron, senile, or a senile moron?

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To: combjelly who wrote (215629)10/25/2021 10:31:49 PM
From: bentway
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Judges are clearly prejudiced against criminals and liars. It's so unfair!

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To: combjelly who wrote (215634)10/25/2021 10:36:01 PM
From: bentway
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RIP Timothy Leary:

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To: bentway who wrote (215640)10/25/2021 10:36:28 PM
From: combjelly
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Yes, it is unfair. Especially since Trump is the GOAT...

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To: bentway who wrote (215639)10/25/2021 10:39:33 PM
From: Thomas M.
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Don't dodge the issue. Do you think it's a crime to pay someone not to talk to the media?

Tom

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To: Thomas M. who wrote (215643)10/25/2021 10:43:42 PM
From: bentway
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It can be, when an election is involved, and it seems to have been in this case. Cohen went to prison.

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