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   PoliticsThe United States election--and the next First Lady?

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From: Solon4/22/2016 7:15:24 AM
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When I read some of the "bright" remarks from the Trump Haters, I am reminded of this rant! The Dumb people are simply outbreeding the smart people...and we are in TROUBLE!

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From: Solon4/24/2016 7:17:27 AM
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/u/TrumpGal The compilation of Question Posts

I was a democrat, still am I guess other than my support of Trump. I'm not feeling particularly coherent tonight, so here are some quick thoughts.

I was horrified at the direction in which Bush took the country, destroying the prosperity of the Clinton era and getting us into needless wars. I was excited about Obama. I voted for him twice. Eventually I realized Obama was as big of a fraud as anyone else. TPP really solidified it for me.

When I really started to think about it, Obama was no different than Bush. He's not progressive at all. Sure, he came around to gay marriage (after initially being against it), he doesn't like guns (but could never do anything about it), but those are just wedge issues used to pit the parties against each other while the donor class laughs all the way to the bank. Obama and Bush are the same because they get money from the same people. When it comes to the stuff they care about, we will get the same no matter if the president is GWB, Obama, Bush, or Clinton.

Obama has supported the military industrial complex keeping us involved in endless wars, orchestrating regime changes and causing further destabilization in the Middle East, and arming the "moderate rebels" who are in fact al-quaeda affiliates. He's continued the Patriot Act and surveillance. He uses executive orders frequently even though he campaigned against that. Obamacare was originally developed by the conservative Heritage foundation and implemented by Romney in Massachusetts. It's a giveaway to the insurance lobby and it penalizes citizens for not buying a product on the private market - it should have been ruled unconstitutional, IMO. The TPP was drafted in secret by and for global corporations. How can the hope and change candidate support this stuff? I don't have links to support each and every point, but take a look at this list

I realized that we could not have another 8 years of this with Hillary Clinton. She will govern exactly like Obama, get involved in needless conflicts and sell out to corporations and big banks wherever she can. This interview with Elizabeth Warren really drives home who Hillary is: I also read up on how Wall Street feels basically fine with either Hillary or Jeb as president Now, sorry, that was mostly about why I'm not voting for the democrats this time around even though I was at some point what you would call pretty liberal.

Money in politics really is the biggest issue though. No matter what a candidate says they will do, the bottom line is they are bought and paid for and they will succumb to those interests. Trump is self-funded and bypasses this entirely. This is so, so important. It means he can make appointments to people who are actually QUALIFIED. He doesn't have to give jobs to political hacks and donors. He isn't part of a machine. I don't expect him to know everything, just to hire competent people and manage them well.

Trump is used to running a business where HIS money is the line. Look how he runs his campaign where HIS money is on the line. It was like pulling teeth to get him to put his first 200k on radio ads, while others have dumped 10s of millions down the drain to get worse results. I want him to run the country like this, as if his own money were on the line.

As far as social issues, I don't think he cares either way. He said he would look at Planned Parenthood and be open to funding the non-abortion things they do. He thinks gay marriage should have been left to the states, but he disagreed with Kim Davis and said the law is now the law.

He's non-interventionist. He wants to bomb the shit out of ISIS, working with Russia, but he doesn't want us to interfere with sovereign nations generally. I agree with this - ISIS is like the Nazis, and they are a threat to us, we have to take them out. Other candidates want to make a no-fly zone which basically means shooting down Russian planes and going to war with Russia... for what?!

He wants to build our infrastructure, not spend the money on wars or "nation building." He's said it's ridiculous we put money into building schools in Iraq, which get blown up anyway, but we can't put up a school in Brooklyn? Bringing blue collar jobs back is a big issue too. There are so many towns and counties that have become ghost towns when "the plant" closes down and moves to Mexico or China. The areas become severely economically depressed. These are people that want to work, not be on welfare. The number of people on food stamps exploded under Obama and the unemployment for blacks is depression-era. Wages overall have been stagnant for 10 years. These are the kinds of things Trump talks about.

In the same vein, he wants to improve our trade deals. We're a debtor nation, and it makes no sense for us to trade on terms that are so weak for us. Who benefits? Global corporations who can maximize profits by accessing more global markets but setting up shop in the countries that allow slave labor and headquartering themselves in the country with the lower taxes.

When it comes to immigration and security, this shouldn't even be an issue on party lines. I'm going to vote for the candidate that I think will make the country safe. Trump wants to bring back surveillance programs that worked in NYC. The Muslim ban may be extreme, but non-citizens have no constitutional right to come here. As for the wall, Hillary voted for a fence on the Mexican border that was never built, and this was the DNC platform in 1996 on immigration: Trump doesn't use PC language but there is nothing wrong with the concept of securing the border and deporting each and every person who is here illegally. Not all are bad people, but they are depressing wages in addition to causing crime.

Trump has also vowed to keep Social Security and Medicare intact, and wants to repeal Obamacare. He's supported single payer and universal healthcare in the past.

I'm sure there's more I haven't thought of but those are some of the main points why I like him so much.

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To: Solon who wrote (99)4/24/2016 7:18:57 AM
From: Solon
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/u/gabillionsOriginal post: I am a former NSA/CIA guy and business owner. Here's why I'm voting for trump

I'm absolutely tired of Trump supporters being characterized as "White, poor, and uneducated". I'm not any of those three things. It's no wonder that the country's political establishment has no idea why someone like me would vote for Trump. Here's why:

My reasons for Trump:

  • National security: This is a big deal to me. The other candidates haven't put forth a single item that improves it, except Trump. People laugh when Trump mentions The Wall, but it's actually a good idea. As someone who has worked closely with CBP/DHS and who worked at the National Counter-Terrorism Center in order to prevent terrorists from entering the country, the Mexican border is one of the weakest vectors of infiltration we have. Shoring this area up has only positive benefits: putting a large stop to illegal drug/weapons/human trafficking; making it exceedingly difficult for terrorists to enter the country unnoticed; giving us the ability to refocus a lot of the money spent on personnel patrolling the border areas.

  • Healthcare Plan: The plan that he just released is the absolutely best healthcare plan that any candidate has put forth. Although I was a Trump supporter beforehand, reading it made me only want to vote for Trump more, as it shows that he is both standing up for middle class americans (lowering premiums by allowing more competition; decreasing pharmaceutical costs; allowing individuals to fully deduct premiums) while still being compassionate to the poor (making sure people who can't afford healthcare can still get the healthcare they need). He even made it a point to say during the debates that he doesn't want people dying in the streets because they can't afford healthcare. Points like this are constantly glossed over as others attempt to demonize him.

  • Trump can make deals: This sounds ridiculous to people who support candidates like Ted Cruz (who would take a strong stance on things), but the reality in D.C. is that you have to be willing to work with people in order to pass legislation. I absolutely recognize this need for cooperation between political parties, and I don't want a president who people aren't willing to work with (Bernie Sanders included). When you are too far left or too far right, you take an untenable position. As Trump moves to the center for the presidential election (as all candidates inevitably do), I think he will leave the most room for cooperation with other political interests.

  • Foreign policy: This is hailed as Trump's weakest point, and people are not wrong. Trump as a figurehead of the United States, however, could prove to be a huge asset in one very important area -- repairing the relationship with Russia. Can you imagine a level of cooperation with a country like Russia where you're not each trying to fund multiple groups in middle-eastern proxy wars? Russia is very committed to eliminating terrorists/extremists, and cooperation with them could bring an end to the foothold that groups like ISIS have found in recent years. Strong, authoritarian figures only respect other strong, authoritarian figures, and Trump would represent the United States no longer allowing people to take advantage of its resources because of perceived weakness.

Why not Bernie

I get the excitement people feel over Bernie, and I started out for Bernie. The more I thought on all the things that sound nice such as free college, a living wage, racial justice, etc. the more I realized the inherent flaws with those things.

  • Free College: It sounds good from the outset, as education has been a key differentiator for people to move up in income. But making college free is effectively extending the education system by 4-5 years, and removing people from the legitimate pipelines of other career paths: the military, trade schools, immediately entering the job force after high school, and so on. There is absolutely good money to be made installing HVAC systems or fixing toilets/washers/dryers, but why would someone start down that path if they feel their degree means they deserve cushy job as a middle-management type. The end result is: everyone has a degree, therefore no one has a degree. People in my industry (software development) actually tend to completely disregard someone's degree when looking at a candidate, which is more akin to what the future of the work force looks like (excepting jobs that require a degree such as an engineer, medical professional, etc.).

  • Living Wage: I think most educated people can see the flaw to this type of plan. If I pay someone $15/hr plus the federally mandated medical benefits, etc. then as a business owner I would have to greatly increase the prices of my goods/services in order to have a chance at growing the business. So all the businesses increase their prices, the $15/hr buys less, homeowners/landowners increase rent in order to pay for the price increase of things, and you've effectively done nothing.

  • Racial Justice: Talking about race is just about the most un-American thing you can do. Who gives a shit where your parents/grandparents came from -- Who are you going to be? The politics of the left are to divide people by race, religion, sexual orientation, and then pander to each division. Trump might be a polarizing force, but that's a very good thing. Unity in the identity of being an "American" is a much more powerful ideal than saying "We're Black/White/Asian/Hispanic and we're American", because where does the division end? Do we then split up Hispanics by the individual country? I know for a fact that El Salvadoreans see themselves as completely different than Guatemalans. Should we then make sure that workplaces are made up of 1.2% El Salvadoreans and 0.6% Guatemalans. What if you have someone born of an El Salvadorean and a Guatemalan parent. There is no logical end to division. The laws of the country should be color blind. Unity in an American identity is the answer.

  • National Security: Say what you want about Obama, but when he got into office after having made so many promises related to reigning in national security elements, he was handed intelligence reports of how things really are. He then made the choice to change his stance in light of new information. Guys like Bernie are passionate, and that passion makes them stubborn. If Bernie gets into office, he would absolutely start cutting national security programs regardless of what information came in, as he has promised in his campaign platform. Knowing what I know, it would be an absolute disaster to see the country go down a path of dismantling the programs that have nullified most attempts to attack the United States.

Why not Hillary

  • Classified Emails: If I had done what Hillary had done when I held a TS/SCI clearance, I would be in jail for 10+ years without hesitation from any judge presiding over the case. This is a big deal, as the definition for Top Secret (which we all had to learn by heart in the military) was "which reasonably could be expected to cause exceptionally grave damage to the national security" if disclosed. She instructed people to wipe classification headings from documents and send them to an insecure server.

  • Making Deals: Hillary is the only other candidate I believe would actually be able to pass legislation, as she is also able to effectively make deals. With the way the Clintons act, though, I could never trust that their intentions would be for the good of the United States, with actions like pardoning one of the FBI's most wanted in exchange for a 1 million+ donation. In my mind, that only leaves Trump.

  • Other Things: There's a laundry list of my anti-Hillary sentiment, but they're all Trumped by the classified emails scandal. She's not a viable candidate because she committed a crime and will soon receive her punishment. If I know the administration that exists though, the plan is this: 1) Push forward any criminal action as fast as possible. 2) Conclude the case before the next president takes office. 3) Pardon Hillary so that the next president (Trump) can't force the DOJ to pursue a criminal indictment that she can't be pardoned out of.

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To: Solon who wrote (100)4/24/2016 7:19:57 AM
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When and how does Trump intend to court black voters? How will his base react if he does so?

I think he will have a lot to offer black voters. I've always said that the main issues of the day are "free trade" and immigration. It's been hurting everyone.

The immigration implications are quite large for the African American community. A lot of hispanic immigrants are moving into black areas and preying on them as part of gang warfare. Compton, possibly the most iconic black community, is now majority hispanic. I don't know where you all are from so you may be immune to it but blacks are not well treated by many hispanics who are moving into these areas.

Trump has highlighted the case of Jamiel Shaw, a really good kid who was gunned down by gang violence. He was 17 and probably going to Stanford to play football. But ...

Jamiel Shaw Jr., 17, a black youth, was shot in the head and back at 2150 5th Ave. in Arlington Heights about 8:40 p.m. on Sunday, March 2.

According to police, Jamiel was walking home when two Latino men jumped out of a white car and approached him. He was asked what gang he belonged to. When he failed to respond quickly enough, they shot him, police said.

The men sped away in the white car north on 5th Avenue, according to Officer Kate Lopez of LAPD's media relations office. Jamiel's father heard the shots and ran outside. He stayed by his son until medical personnel arrived, Lopez said.

The Southern Povery Law Center has noted this trend, writing a few years ago:

Driven by racial violence between blacks and Latinos, hate crimes in Los Angeles rose by 28% in 2007, hitting a five-year high, according to a report issued in July by the Los Angeles County Human Relations Commission.

This sharp rise in racially motivated criminal activity contrasted dramatically with the overall decline in the Los Angeles crime rate last year.

The report documented 763 reported hate crimes, dominated by assault and vandalism. The largest category of crimes involved Latino suspects targeting black victims ..

The economic aspect has been devastating for the black community as well. This has a number of facets which include: immigrant from central/south America, foreign visa workers, and outsourcing.

Buzzfeed ran a really good article about this that I recommend everyone read.

“All you black American people, fuck you all…just go to the office and pick up your check,” the supervisor at Hamilton Growers told workers during a mass layoff in June 2009.

The following season, according to a lawsuit filed by the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, about 80 workers, many of them black, were simply told: “All you Americans are fired.”

Year after year, Hamilton Growers, which has supplied squash, cucumbers, and other produce to Wal-Mart and the Green Giant brand, hired scores of Americans, only to cast off many of them within weeks, according to the U.S. government. And time after time, the grower filled the jobs with foreign guest workers instead.

This is some pretty brutal stuff. You can see here that, while it's decreasing, black unemployment was higher than average during the recession and is still hovering around the 10% range. It's not just the black community either .. white blue collar (generally considered those without college degrees) workers are facing equally high despair, and have suicide rates even higher than African Americans:

The white working class, which usually inspires liberal concern only for its paradoxical, Republican-leaning voting habits, has recently become newsworthy for something else: according to economist Anne Case and Angus Deaton, the winner of the latest Nobel Prize in economics, its members in the 45- to 54-year-old age group are dying at an immoderate rate. While the lifespan of affluent whites continues to lengthen, the lifespan of poor whites has been shrinking. As a result, in just the last four years, the gap between poor white men and wealthier ones has widened by up to four years.

These problems are effecting all communities across the board. From Disney forcing workers to train their foreign replacements to jobs being outsources to Asia leaving dying communities in the US, the problems are very real. This is a major reason for the increasing inequality gap. The rich donor class always supports mass immigration, outsourcing, and more H1B visas. Cheap labor is all that matters to them, fuck everyone else. While Bernie also touches on some of this I only trust Trump to handle them. I believe he will enact more protectionist policies and encourage support for American workers. If you have any questions feel free to PM me further or ask anyone at /r/the_donald.

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From: Solon4/27/2016 8:38:58 AM
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"I love the idea of the Great Wall of Trump. I want to have a two drink minimum. Make it a big world-wide tourist attraction and everyday live drone shows whenever anyone tries to cross the border. I have not had this much hope for America since November 7, 2012..."

A Tourist Attraction?! Love it! That will pay for the upkeep on the wall and the patrols!!

Let us say (for the sake of simplicity) that a major welcome center/attraction center is located in every border state (California, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas). Each one getting 10,000 visitors per day.

An admission of $20.00. Maybe $50.00 for family. And of course, food, drink, entertainment--etc. etc. etc!

Of course, I am just making up numbers--but if the wall is tendered out correctly and attracts the most high-tech, sophisticated construction features known to humankind...then AMERICA WILL SHINE BEFORE THE WORLD!

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To: Solon who wrote (102)4/27/2016 9:01:22 AM
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Of course, the wall might even have a little elaborately carved decorative stone with some marble and gold leaf--just for the "WOW!" factor... :-)

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From: Solon4/30/2016 10:41:17 AM
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Should be in every home!

"What the colonial period has to teach us, then, is that the truly American sentiment is not Andrew Jackson’s famous toast, 'Our federal Union—It must be preserved!' but John C. Calhoun’s reply, 'The Union—Next to our liberties, most dear!'”

Thomas E. Woods, Jr.

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From: Solon5/1/2016 10:48:33 AM
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If anything in the line of foul play should happen to Donald Trump (God forbid) there are many reasons why people MUST vote for lying Rafael Cruz from Canada.

Hillary is insincere

Rafael is just as insincere! But in addition (and to his credit—but not yours) he is unpredictable, cunning, deceptive, sneaky, night crawling--and without any conscience so far as anyone has been able to detect. America’s enemies will never know what affect their words or deeds will have and neither will the American people in terms of domestic policies. Like a slot machine, the good and the bad will be random and unforeseen. And he could carpet bomb at any time, in any State—in any country. He has one policy and one policy only: To maintain his severe ego disorder and to repair any perceived damage done to his ego.


Hillary cheats and lies and looks you in the eye.

Rafael cheats and lies even more! But in addition (and to his credit—but not yours) he is unpredictable, cunning, deceptive, sneaky, night crawling--and without any conscience so far as anyone has been able to detect! America’s enemies will never know what affect their words or deeds will have and neither will the American people in terms of domestic policies. Like a slot machine, the good and the bad will be random and unforeseen. And he could carpet bomb at any time, in any State—in any country. He has one policy and one policy only: To maintain his severe ego disorder and to repair any perceived damage done to his ego.


Hillary is worn down and unhealthy. She hates her job and is only in it to be the “first woman”. ALL EGO.

Rafael is like a street person living on canned soup. He is also tired and worn-out from unhealthy living and from the cognitive dissonance that pulls him in every direction. Everyone distrusts him and loathes him—and he returns the favour. He uses everyone to meet his own megalomaniacal needs. He likes nobody. He needs nobody. But in addition (and to his credit—but not yours) he is unpredictable, cunning, deceptive, sneaky, night crawling--and without any conscience so far as anyone has been able to detect. America’s enemies will never know what affect their words or deeds will have and neither will the American people in terms of domestic policies. Like a slot machine, the good and the bad will be random and unforeseen. And he could carpet bomb at any time, in any State—in any country. He has one policy and one policy only: To maintain his severe ego disorder and to repair any perceived damage done to his ego.


Hilary is so absorbed in her private pursuit of personal power that she is basically ignorant of the world around her.

Rafael is even more grandiose and self-absorbed that the Hill of Beans Poster Hag. He thinks a basketball hoop is a “ring”. This is important because it relates to his utter isolation from those around him and underscores the fact that even in school he had no friends and lived in his own revengeful world. He will always be working in the background like a blind mole digging up spring bulbs (or delegates) planted by others. He will never work as a team with anyone even though he will have no problem pretending to. His entire life is a game of PRETEND. Most importantly, he wants to pretend he is important and that all those people he hates (everybody)…actually like him. But in addition (and to his credit—but not yours) he is unpredictable, cunning, deceptive, sneaky, night crawling--and without any conscience so far as anyone has been able to detect. America’s enemies will never know what affect their words or deeds will have and neither will the American people in terms of domestic policies. Like a slot machine, the good and the bad will be random and unforeseen. And he could carpet bomb at any time, in any State—in any country. He has one policy and one policy only: To maintain his severe ego disorder and to repair any perceived damage done to his ego.


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From: Solon5/1/2016 9:56:58 PM
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From the I hate Donald Trump thread...

Why does Donald think American servicemen aren't citizens?.........

{9-11 was) "The single greatest military catastrophe in the history of our country, worse then Pearl Harbor, because you take a look at what what's happened, and citizens were attacked as opposed to the military being attacked."
Does Brumar have a comprehension problem? Or is it more of his pretentious misrepresentation?

Doesn't he know that the meaning was "civilians". Is Brumar being honest when he pretends to believe otherwise?? Trump knows that the military are citizens. And he probably knows that we shoot basketballs through a hoop and not a "ring" as Cruz thinks from his introverted/isolated college years!!

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From: Solon5/14/2016 1:38:50 PM
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What a great article. Thanks to Honey-Bee for finding this!

"Washington today is like the Commodore Hotel was in the 1970s. Trump will gut it and make it better than you have ever seen it. He made Manhattan great again. Of course he will Make America Great Again."

Another PerspectiveThe Thinking Man’s Guide to Donald Trump

Why Donald Trump should be President.If a year ago someone told me I would be an advocate of Donald Trump, I would have laughed, because everyone knew he was a joke with a toupee. But on August 27, 2015, at a rally in Greenville, South Carolina, when Mary Margaret Bannister pulled his hair, we learned he does not wear a wig.

And in researching my upcoming book, Trump The Press, I learned he is no joke. He has developed the leadership skills needed to lead the free world.

In December 2014, Peter Economy of Inc. magazine wrote, “The Top 10 Skills Every Great Leader Needs to Succeed.” Trump has them all.

1. Inspires and motivates others.

My favorite example is Jim Herman, who at 38 won his first PGA tournament on April 3, 2016. Herman tried for years to make the PGA but gave up on his dreams a decade ago, and settled in as an assistant pro at Trump National in Bedminster, New Jersey.

“I got into a nice conversation with Donald, Mr. Trump, one day. He’s like, ‘Why are you folding shirts and giving lessons? Why aren’t you on the Tour? I’ve played with tour players, you’re good enough.’ I don’t know, maybe something like that gives you more confidence,” Herman told Simon Evans of Reuters after winning the Shell Houston Open.

2. Displays high integrity and honesty.

In business, your word is your bond. Fellow billionaires T. Boone Pickens, Conrad Black, and Carl Icahn vouch for him. Businessmen seldom give a liar a second chance. Trump is tough, but respected.

3. Solves problems and analyzes issues.

In the 1970s, developers gave up on most of Manhattan. Enter Trump. He bought the Commodore Hotel in the hope of restoring it to its former glory. That meant closing down the X-rated shops that infested its first floor. The city offered him tax abatements, but the banks were reluctant to finance his project. Trump, all of 34, figured out a way to make it work.

4. Drives for results.
The city of New York wasted six years and millions of dollars trying to renovate an ice rink at Central Park. Trump took the project over, and brought it in under budget and on schedule in six month

5. Communicates powerfully and prolifically.

What can I say? No one has commanded news coverage like The Donald. True, much of it is negative, but like Reagan, he talks through the camera and directly to the public. He was the Big Dog who showed that the rest in the litter were runts.

6. Builds relationships.

One of my favorite chapters in my book includes a testimonial from Peter David Ticktin, an extraordinary trial lawyer who rid Ontario of the loathsome Uniform Summons within a year of passing the Bar. He served as Trump’s top sergeant when they were in military school together in the 1960s.

“Of the 99 guys (no girls in those days) in our class, there is not one who I know who has a bad word to say about Donald Trump. Think of it. With all the jealousies which arise in high school and thereafter, with all the potential envy, not one of us has anything other than positive memories of this man. How could we? He was an A student, a top athlete, and as a leader, he was highly respected. We never feared him, yet we never wanted to disappoint him,” Ticktin wrote.

7. Displays technical or professional expertise.

His eldest son said he and his brother are the only sons of billionaires in the world who can operate a D-10 Caterpillar. Trump raised him like his father, Fred Trump, raised his sons by making them pull weeds and learn development from the sub-floor up.

8. Displays a strategic perspective.

Throughout Donald Trump’s career, he has developed strategies, beginning with converting the Commodore Hotel into the Grand Hyatt. He studied the media until he mastered it. His reality shows dominated the ratings over 14 seasons.

9. Develops others.

Trump made his caddy, Dan Scavino Jr., his social media director. Trump does not go by résumé. He goes by results.

10. Innovates.

Until Trump, recent presidential nominees had to raise millions and blow millions on ads and huge staffs to win. A billionaire, he did not buy the election. Rather, he earned it by going out there every day and rallying the people by standing for something — America.

Bonus: Champions change.

Trump is an advocate of Management By Wandering Around. He talks to staff and to learn first-hand what is going on. Professor Newt Gingrich said Trump is one of the quickest learners he has ever seen.

Flip flop? You can bet your assets that he will change his position at any time, anywhere, and any place if given new facts. He was pro-choice until he realized that a baby is not an inconvenience but a gift from God.

Yes, I get that he is not a cookie-cutter conservative when it comes to policy. But writing policy is not a president’s job. You hire people like Ted Cruz to draft policy. That is what President Bush 43 did.

Trump’s biggest selling point is that like Bush 43, Reagan, and Eisenhower, Trump accomplished something in life before entering politics. That taught him that public policy has consequences. Leaders should be aware of the damage as well as the good they do.

Washington today is like the Commodore Hotel was in the 1970s. Trump will gut it and make it better than you have ever seen it. He made Manhattan great again. Of course he will Make America Great Again.

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