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To: Solon who wrote (70868)10/22/2003 7:25:35 PM
From: Rainy_Day_Woman
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many countries of the world are still behind in development

many cultures are so different they will always seem 'behind' us

we are the melting pot of the world, we carry a different aura, a genuine blend of almost every country in the world

we have grown at an astonishing rate

Americans are outgoing and friendly, hard working, question authority, wealthy by world standards, generous, always in a hurry, spirited, determined, informal, use a kidding brand of humor few other cultures understand

having said that, cultural differences and social customs aside, human rights and civil freedoms are the right of each person on this planet

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To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (70895)10/22/2003 7:26:16 PM
From: Solon
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It is sort of rare for me these days. Growing up in the country with one TV channel, it was a weekly event. Nowadays, it is a social thing when it comes down to the wire. Other than tennis, I probably don't watch more than a dozen games a year in all sports combined...

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To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (70893)10/22/2003 7:30:22 PM
From: Solon
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I'm sure she is a good kid, red noz or not! She just needs a little time and balance.

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To: Rainy_Day_Woman who wrote (70896)10/22/2003 7:43:35 PM
From: Solon
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Thumbs up to that! Where do people want to move to? It is the US or Canada! The facts bury the running noses.

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To: zonder who wrote (70881)10/22/2003 8:40:40 PM
From: Lazarus_Long
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OK. Not QUITE up to the standards set by honor killing or suicide bombers, though.

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To: Sun Tzu who wrote (70788)10/22/2003 8:45:17 PM
From: Lazarus_Long
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2-5 for murder? He must have bought the judge.

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To: Sun Tzu who wrote (70776)10/22/2003 8:46:14 PM
From: Lazarus_Long
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Equally? Doubtful.

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To: Rainy_Day_Woman who wrote (70885)10/23/2003 4:37:24 AM
From: zonder
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It is becoming uncomfortable that you are so obsessed about my personal details. Get a life. Quickly.

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To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (70883)10/23/2003 4:51:35 AM
From: zonder
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This [state-sanctioned killing] can't be classed as revenge killing

I didn't say capital punishment was "revenge killing". I pointed out that it is an inhuman, outdated practice the US still practices.

That appears bizarre and inhuman to Europeans. But you don't think it is, obviously.

If you wish to say killing a person under any circumstances is wrong, then I presume you are a total pacifist and oppose war under any conditions?

Violence is justified only in self-defense. And, no, killing a convict who is already in a cell is NOT self-defense. Incidentally, nor was invading a country who hasn't aggressed anyone in pretty much the last decade, weakened by years of sanctions, who had no real ties to the guys who attacked you.

>>>Honor killings happen in the least educated and most conservative places of the Middle East. It is certainly not common practice everywhere. There was one such honor killing in Southeastern Turkey that I read about a few months ago, but in Turkish cities, girls and boys hold hands & kiss in the streets and nobody kills anyone. <<<
And suicide bombings carried out against civilians are ..... ? Or attempting to blow up Los Angeles International Airport? Or the World Trade Center? Or ramming jets into skyscrapers?


Don't make me think you are incapable of distinguishing between (1) a family killing the girl because she has flirted around and "tainted the family honor", and (2) terrorist attacks.

We were talking about the former. I was referring to the former. You are talking about the latter here.

And Jehovah's Witnesses refuse transfusions and they and their kids die.

There you go :-) So you agree that it is not only in the Middle East that traditional values, religion, and ultra conservatist ways of life cost lives. It happens everywhere, including the US.

As a general these days, if you beat your wife and she or someone else complains, you go to jail

Of course. You seem to think this doesn't happen in the Middle East. At least in the parts I know, you are wrong.

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To: Solon who wrote (70899)10/23/2003 9:29:08 AM
From: Rainy_Day_Woman
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yep, nothing quite like our northern hemisphere

I am going to Chicago for two days

ah, those blues clubs, very mmmmmmmmm

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