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To: J.F. Sebastian who wrote (8337)6/15/2019 10:01:24 PM
From: Doren
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> I can only surmise that living under that kind of oppression

It is my very strong suspicion that a large percentage of ANY population prefers to be told what to believe.

It is genetic IMO. It explains why people believe things that are obviously not true. It explains why people from a civilized well educated nation would embrace Hitler or trump. These are the people susceptible to propaganda and advertising.

Its a bell curve.

At the opposite end are people completely immune to propaganda. Most people dwell somewhere in between.

No doubt in my mind that hundreds of million in China totally support their dictatorship.

> amazing if the population in general has suddenly turned on Apple

A large portion of China thinks the west caused China to fall behind economically and technologically. There are very good historical reasons for them to believe that.

Tea, opium and Great Britain. Japan as it is allied with the west which if you think about it has been the case since WWII.

So its not so sudden... trump is a catalyst and Apple is symbolic, first of wealth, now of western oppression.

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To: lucky_limey who wrote (8338)6/15/2019 10:07:51 PM
From: Doren
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I wouldn't say Apple has a looser mentality.

However the basis of their success is tenuous. At first it was the superiority of their transition to UNIX. Then their embrace of the mini-hard drive, then the phone and iOS. They did have better usabilty but its always been almost an after thought to them while "elegance" has always been what they thought was their advantage.

Now though everyone else has caught up except on security. That's keeping them alive. I suspect Google will solve that problem using AI.

I personally think they missed their chance to capture a much larger part of the computer market, due to greed and tunnel vision on iPhones.

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To: Doren who wrote (8340)6/17/2019 2:29:45 AM
From: clochard
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Apple will release an even more expensive iPhone 11 and expect everyone to buy it or one of its older models. Imagine buying an iPhone 7 now because its the only one you can afford (or want to spend the money on). They will be superseded just like in the 90's with their expensive junk.

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To: clochard who wrote (8341)6/17/2019 2:44:06 AM
From: J.F. Sebastian
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Really, are you privy to Apple's marketing and pricing decisions around the iPhone 11, or are you simply speculating the next iPhone will be even more expensive? Pretty sure it's the latter.

If you have inside information, do tell!

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To: J.F. Sebastian who wrote (8342)6/17/2019 3:01:22 AM
From: clochard
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news.softpedia.com

news.softpedia.com

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To: clochard who wrote (8343)6/17/2019 3:50:49 AM
From: J.F. Sebastian
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The first article doesn't mention anything about a price for the iPhone 11, only expected features.

The second article is about a company that say it can hack Android and iOS devices, again not mentioning any pricing info for the upcoming iPhone.

They are non sequiturs to the question I asked.

Stop wasting my time.

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To: J.F. Sebastian who wrote (8344)6/17/2019 5:43:11 AM
From: clochard
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Let's see how long AAPL holds up when every big fund decides to dump it in the face of lowered guidance and the global slump.

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To: clochard who wrote (8345)6/17/2019 1:37:32 PM
From: lucky_limey
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I am thinking that a proper trade agreement with China will have to give Chinese companies access to USA markets.... just as we demand acess to theirs. That will be a disaster for AAPL

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From: lucky_limey6/17/2019 1:54:29 PM
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Why did Apple invest billions in an LCD plant when the entire industry, including AAPL was moving off LCD to OLED?


Japan Display, in need of funds, says Taiwan's TPK decided not to invest

JUNE 16, 2019 / 8:10 PM / UPDATED 12 HOURS AGO

TOKYO (Reuters) - Japan Display Inc on Monday said it has received notice from
TPK Holding Co Ltd that the Taiwanese screen maker has decided not to invest a
proposed $230 million, muddying the outlook for the Apple Inc supplier.


More at: reuters.com

Apple agrees to wait for c.$1.5B owed by Japan Display, to assist bailout
Ben Lovejoy - May. 30th 2019 5:47 am PT

Apple has agreed to wait for money owed to it by Japan Display in order to assist
the bailout of the troubled display-maker …

Reuters doesn’t go into details on the money owed to Apple, but it likely relates to
the Cupertino company paying most of the upfront costs of a new LCD factory built
specifically for iPhone production back in 2015.

It was reported back in March that Apple paid most of the $1.5B cost of the facility,
with an agreement that it would be repaid as a percentage of each screen sold.
However, little was repaid due to falling demand for LCD panels as smartphone
makers switched to OLED.

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To: lucky_limey who wrote (8347)6/17/2019 2:12:05 PM
From: J.F. Sebastian
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A better question would be why did Apple pay twice that for Beats Electronics? Have they even made back their investment on that one yet? You have to sell a lot of headphones to make up for $3 billion, even when their headphones cost $300 a pop.

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