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From: handyman6/11/2019 9:47:01 PM
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This will be a monster product for Apple and although it won't be a big money maker it is going to be disruptive to the credit card business.

Goldman CEO says employees are testing – and loving – Apple Card ahead of its summer launch

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To: lucky_limey who wrote (8308)6/12/2019 12:51:34 AM
From: lucky_limey
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here handyman... escalating tensions between China and Taiwan. China believes Taiwan is theres and is saying loud and proud they will take it back... with force if necssary... Educate yourself... this article is a week old

Tensions between Taiwan and the People’s Republic of China (PRC) are surging to an alarming extent. The latest indicator is the recent exchange of heated rhetoric between Gen. Wei Fenghe, China’s Minister of National Defense, and Taiwan’s Mainland Affairs Council, the Taiwanese government’s chief policymaking body dealing with cross-strait relations. As Taiwan’s self-proclaimed protector, Washington should be extremely worried about these developments.

Speaking on June 1 at the Shangri-La Dialogue, an annual multilateral conference on Pacific security issues, Wei warned against efforts either in Taiwan or foreign countries to thwart China’s goal of reunification. Moreover, “any underestimation of the PLA’s resolve and will is extremely dangerous.” Wei added ominously that, “If anyone dares to split Taiwan from China, the Chinese military will have no choice but to fight at all costs, at all costs, (sic.) for national unity. If the PLA cannot even safeguard the unity of our motherland, what do we need it for?”

The Mainland Affairs Council responded with equally harsh and uncompromising language. In a statement issued the following day, the council reasserted that Taiwan has never been a part of the PRC and would never accept Beijing’s control or threats. It accused China not only of “challenging international norms and order,” but added the gratuitous slap that Beijing’s claim to seek peaceful development was “a lie of the ages.” Lest anyone not fully grasp the extent of Taipei’s hostility toward the PRC, the statement went on: “We need to remind the public that the Chinese Communist Party is practicing anti-democracy, anti-peace between the two sides of the strait and further resorting to war. This is the main cause of the tension in the Taiwan Strait and the region, and it is the source of danger and provocation against peace and stability.”

There are multiple signs from various sources of growing U.S. backing for Taiwan’s de facto independence. Congress certainly is stepping up its support. By a unanimous voice vote in early May, the House of Representatives passed the Taiwan Assurance Act, which expresses firm support for Taiwan while urging Taipei to increase its own defense spending. The legislation also recommends that Washington continue “regular sales of defense articles” to Taiwan and back Taipei’s participation in international organizations—something Beijing emphatically resists.

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To: handyman who wrote (8309)6/12/2019 12:55:10 AM
From: sylvester80
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Goldman Sachs is bankrolling the card so what do you expect them to say? Only a retard will not see that. Sheesh...

Report: Citigroup pulled out of consumer-friendly Apple Card because of profitability doubts

Apple unveils Apple Card in partnership with Goldman Sachs

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To: J.F. Sebastian who wrote (8299)6/12/2019 7:10:06 PM
From: Doren
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Give em time...

They've taken over so many market items...

They're contenders in the supercomputer and AA spaces...

They graduate far more STEM people...

Developers will go with them... especially as it'll be easy to port Android to China Android. In any case, Apple as a status item among Chinese is a dead duck. Its over. Nobody with any power in China wants to be seen using an iPhone. The Chinese have a lot of incentive at this point to pay developers to work on their own OS and to subsidize 5G development where arguably they already have the advantage.

> sell only to China and other countries that don't care about security

That would be

China - 1.4 billion
India 1.35 billion
Indonesia 268 million
Pakistan 204 million

Heuwai is doing fine in Europe... much to trumps chagrin.

Not a bad niche to be in.

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> The Chinese government doesn't care how much the trade ward affects their people because it doesn't care about them. Unlike the U.S., they don't have to.

The US doesn't have to care about its people... they just have to convince them they are the lesser of two evils. Look back at history... the government protects the rich and powerful not working people.

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To: handyman who wrote (8304)6/12/2019 7:18:36 PM
From: Doren
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He he... companies will go where ever its cheapest... if they can

So companies in China will go to Malaysia or Vietnam... pay workers $10 a day...

They won't be coming back to the US.

Unlike trump, the Chinese have all the time in the world. Its not that big of a deal to them. They still have lots of factories and the rest of the world.

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frankly I'm thinking the market could go two ways:

its teetering now close to a meltdown... big investors are protecting their stuff with shorts etc

trump makes a crap deal like he did with Mexico and proclaims it a "genius deal" ...

The second is almost a given... the first no one knows, the longer Ponzi Donald is the president the more likely it is.

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To: lucky_limey who wrote (8305)6/12/2019 7:19:38 PM
From: Doren
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1) Taiwan production costs too high
2) China will not risk nuclear war over Taiwan invasion

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To: lucky_limey who wrote (8305)6/12/2019 7:27:40 PM
From: J.F. Sebastian
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I don't think companies are dumb enough to move their factories to Taiwan if they believe there is a threat from China. As Doren pointed out, there are many places they can go that are out of China's grasp.

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To: J.F. Sebastian who wrote (8315)6/12/2019 8:41:25 PM
From: lucky_limey
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China reiterated earlier this month they have eery intention of taking Taiwan back...and warned the US not to intefere. The current Taiwan Govt. is pro West. There is a recession in Taiwan. The think tanks say that China will go ballistic if the US sends arms to Taiwan. Scuttle any trade deal. Prevailing opinion is that the US take monetary actions to support the current Governement, low interest loans and incentives to invest in Taiwan. Recently, The House approved a massive aid package and reiterated support for Taiwan.

International politics are interesting....

foreignpolicy.com

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From: lucky_limey6/12/2019 9:31:57 PM
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All Taiwan has to do is to drop a 100lb on Chinese High Speed Train rail track and the East is cut off from the West....

A nuclear war with China would solve their population problem... and most of the country is used to living in the 15th Century.... probably would not notice a nuclear exchange.

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From: lucky_limey6/12/2019 10:23:57 PM
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Huawei was planning to announce a new MateBook laptop this week, but an executive confirmed that the company cancelled the launch because of US sanctions against the Chinese company. It's not clear when—or whether—the laptop will be released.

When all this is resolved.... I will be buying a MateBook.

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