| From: sylvester80 | 6/25/2012 12:58:42 PM | | | | | | No shortage of dire bad news for Nokia. You would think the worst is out but the fact is the worst is yet to come. And I'm talking about Q2 and Q3 sales, margins, loss and cash burn numbers... all while the Euro is burning....
At $2.15 Nokia is still a $8 billion company... unless some white night appears, given their projected Q2 and Q3 cash burn as well as the costs of all the job losses and factory shut downs in 2012-13, that $8bil market cap can easily be cut in half from here... or more.... |
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| From: sylvester80 | 6/25/2012 1:16:03 PM | | | | | | | What moron CEO goes with no plan B??? Nokia POS CEO Elop... that's who....So in Feb 2011, some 2 years before Windows Phone 8 comes out, this POS CEO selected a OS that HE KNEW in 2 years will be replaced and that none of the phones he would release during those 2 years, would work with it... what a complete dumbass... Nokia under POS Elop has become a freaking joke.... you can't make this stuff up... |
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| From: sylvester80 | 7/2/2012 2:57:07 AM | | | | | | Nokia’s Chairman admits that the company has a contingency plan should Windows Phone fail them
CATEGORIES: NOKIA, WINDOWS PHONE
 BY: STEFAN CONSTANTINESCU, INTOMOBILE
SUNDAY, JULY 1ST, 2012 AT 10:27 PM
intomobile.com
When Nokia’s executives meet with members of the press there’s always at least one person who builds up the courage to get out of their chair, grab the microphone, and ask the question that dare not be asked: “What happens if the Windows Phone strategy fails?” Stephen Elop, Nokia’s CEO, has repeatedly said: “Plan B is to make sure that Plan A is very successful.”
Last Thursday, during a television interview that aired in Finland, Nokia’s Chairman, Risto Siilasmaa, said something that was probably not meant to leave the company’s cigar smoke filled boardroom. He told the Finnish broadcaster YLE that Nokia definitely has a contingency plan, though he stressed that there’s a lot of confidence in Windows Phone 8.
Does Risto detail what this “contingency plan” is? No, he doesn’t, which means everyone and their mother is going to publish an article postulating what’s going to happen at some point in 2013 if and when Windows Phone fails to break 5% smartphone market share. Speculating never hurt anyone, so let’s dish out our own predictions.
First, Nokia is going to sell their feature phone unit to a rising Chinese handset company. Said Chinese company will be free to use the Nokia brand for a limited time. IBM made the same sort of deal with Lenovo way back in 2004. Second, Nokia Siemens Networks is going to get acquired, probably by Ericsson. Third, we don’t think Microsoft is going to buy Nokia. Microsoft, with Surface, has shown the world that they frankly don’t give a damn about their hardware partners. Instead, Samsung is best positioned to buy Nokia, not just for their design skills, but also for their patents. How many Samsung products have been banned in the United States because of Apple? Exactly.
We’d like to remind you that Nokia posts their Q2 2012 financial results on July 19th. Expect to hear analysts try and squeeze out what this “plan B” is during the conference call. Nokia will fail to provide a definitive answer, but listening to them struggle to say something coherent is always the most fun part of the Q&A session. |
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| To: sense who wrote (148) | 7/17/2012 4:07:33 PM | | From: sense | | | | I'll still choose "neither" or "none of the above" for my answer to the question posed in the list title...
NOK might be a buy at some point... or not... depending.
I'm watching it for hints re the dependencies, fundamentally, and for evidence of trading opportunities in the charts, but, neither the TA nor the fundamentals are giving me much that's useful for picking a bottom, now.
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| From: sylvester80 | 8/6/2012 6:19:31 PM | | | | | | Nokia ask for dealer support as it aims to be “disruptive force”
August 3, 2012 | By Surur
wmpoweruser.com
At a Nokia partner conference held recently with 120 Nokia dealers Nokia vice president of Western Europe Conor Pierce asked Nokia’s partners to help the company become a disruptive force in the market.
Pierce said: “We want to become a disruptive force in the market, but not just a reckless force landing something almighty on the market, we need to be very clever about how we do it.
“They are quite strong words, but we are now a challenger brand and we can do things differently.”
He noted that after losing its 10 year phone leadership to Samsung the company was now free to do things differently, and appealed to dealers to get behind its push to once again become the number one player in the smartphone market.
Pierce said Nokia was happy with the progress of Nokia’s new Windows Phone strategy but said sales are not where they should be.
Calling the Nokia Lumia 800 “great start”, he insisted the company could and will do better.
“Almost half of the UK population is aware of Lumia,” he said. “Is it enough? No, it’s not. Do they consider it? Many do. Are they buying? Many do. Do enough people buy? No, they don’t. We’ll continue to drive the awareness and build the consideration through yourselves, retail and call centres.
“We have driven the business, but is it enough? No, it’s not. We’re a big machine, we need big numbers and we’ll get them.
“We have a great portfolio, great partnership with Microsoft and a great start but that won’t make any difference unless we as individuals, and Nokia as a company, do something radically different. It’s about knowing what we need to do and doing it fast, but not recklessly.
Read more at Mobile News here. |
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| From: sylvester80 | 8/26/2012 4:47:11 AM | | | | | | To give an idea to people, what PPS Nokia and Apple need in 12 months for a 20%, 30%, 40% and 50% gain from the prices of $3.12 and $565 of May 4th, 2012 (the day this board was started) respectively...
+00%: Nokia 3.12, Apple 565
+10%: Nokia 3.43, Apple 622
+20%: Nokia 3.74, Apple 678
+30%: Nokia 4.06, Apple 735
+40%: Nokia 4.37, Apple 791
+50%: Nokia 4.68, Apple 848 |
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