To: CusterInvestor who wrote (31) | 12/17/2020 9:50:16 PM | From: the traveler | | | I have quite a few cef's but things are so high now nothing hits my buy list presently. Mainly use them for income--have held some for years at a time. Do trade from time to time though.
Currently holding--FAX, AWF, BIT, UTF, HIO, EOI, GHY, FFC, RQI, MFD, HIX, JPS, DFP, PCI, DSL
Have held initial buys in some of these many years. Good luck. |
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To: brehm233 who wrote (33) | 12/17/2020 9:54:45 PM | From: the traveler | | | excellent--add to that a nice current discount to NAV and that's about all I do. I admit however, I am always looking for more yield. |
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To: brehm233 who wrote (33) | 12/20/2020 12:01:34 PM | From: the traveler | | | >>>You can reduce the field if eliminate all selling at premium eliminate all whose NAV is below ipo value look only at 6+% yielders<<<
Do you have a screening tool that screens for the above criterion? In particular one that can eliminate cef's with NAV below IPO value? |
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To: the traveler who wrote (36) | 12/20/2020 1:42:30 PM | From: CusterInvestor | | | I have started using this screener. It is some awkward to use, but when you select criteria, you can check more than one box. For example, I checked for monthly payers, selling at a discount (checking all the boxes from zero down), and paying 7 percent or higher. It provided a list of 72 funds.
cefconnect.com |
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To: brehm233 who wrote (33) | 12/21/2020 8:25:22 PM | From: the traveler | | | Did some preliminary analysis----Not sure how this will line up.
| # | | | | | | | (DISC)/ | TICKER | D | FUND NAME | PRICE | NAV | INCP | YLD | INCP | PREM | | I | | 12/18/20 | 12/18/20 | NAV | 12/18/20 | DATE | 12/18/20 | | S | | | | | | | | | T | | | | | | | | SRV | 12 | Cushing MLP & Infras Tot Return | 22.61 | 29.27 | 19.06 | 6.37% | 8/27/2007 | (22.75)% | GDV | 12 | Gabelli Dividend & Income | 21.28 | 24.61 | 19.06 | 6.20% | 11/28/2003 | (13.53)% | GGZ | 4 | Gabelli Global Small & Mid Cap Value Tru | 12.56 | 15.04 | 12.00 | 5.10% | 6/23/2014 | (16.49)% | GRX | 4 | Gabelli Healthcare & Wellness Trust | 11.78 | 13.66 | 8.00 | 5.09% | 6/19/2007 | (13.76)% | GAM | 1 | General American Investors | 36.73 | 43.54 | 10.00 | 6.80% | 2/1/1927 | (15.57)% | RMT | 4 | PIMCO Energy & Tactical Credit Oppst | 10.00 | 11.69 | 7.25 | 6.00% | 12/14/1993 | (14.46)% | RVT | 4 | Royce Value Trust | 16.23 | 18.47 | 10.00 | 6.16% | 11/19/1986 | (12.13)% | SOR | 4 | Source Capital | 40.40 | 44.91 | 16.00 | 6.34% | 10/24/1968 | (10.04)% | HQH | 4 | Tekla Healthcare Investors | 23.28 | 26.09 | 10.00 | 8.25% | 4/23/1987 | (10.77)% | CEE | 1 | The Central and Eastern Europe Fund | 25.00 | 29.00 | 16.74 | 5.85% | 3/6/1990 | (13.81)% | INF | 4 | The India Fund Inc | 19.97 | 22.35 | 14.02 | 8.41% | 2/23/1994 | (10.65)% | |
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To: the traveler who wrote (41) | 12/21/2020 8:57:18 PM | From: brehm233 | | | Just lets assume the market knows more than i do, so it already has considered, hedgings, quality of issues own, leverage, interest rate swaps,liability of location of issues, etc.... so the distributions rate versus the dis/ premium should tell us something regarding how the perceived market price is determined??? just thoughts, anyone thoughts...tia |
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To: Kapusta Kid who wrote (19) | 3/6/2021 12:46:27 PM | From: Max2.0 | | | I have about 10 CEFs and about half are Equity CEFs. My position is that ROC is mostly meaningless in itself. The important metric for me is NAV. If it goes up or is constant over time, then all is well. If there is a consistent downward trend over time, then that is a red flag and I will avoid starting a position.
In a CEF with declining asset value, I may look at ROC to analyze/determine if the fund is over distributing (IE: Destructive ROC). |
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