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To: mark_ikn who wrote (992)11/22/2021 12:51:18 PM
From: Gib Bogle
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How do you know that Valdez is monitoring your Whatsapp activity?

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To: Gib Bogle who wrote (993)11/22/2021 2:17:54 PM
From: mark_ikn
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A reasonable question I was told to expect from well-meaning people. On advice, the public statement and the fact I have ample proof (note that phrase was highlighted) is more than enough at this point. It is a serious allegation under the law here.

Under the same advice, the best answer for third parties is to consider the opposite: If either statement weren't true or could not be proven, I'd be leaving myself open to a host of civil and criminal actions. I'm not into committing some sort legal suicide, even less in front of an audience of lawyers who would relish bringing legal actions against me. I had to wait until the proxies to mention it and that wasn't much fun, either.

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To: mark_ikn who wrote (994)11/22/2021 2:26:01 PM
From: Gib Bogle
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Have you considered the possibility that somebody you are communicating with via Whatsapp is sharing those messages with Valdez?

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To: Gib Bogle who wrote (995)11/22/2021 2:29:35 PM
From: mark_ikn
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I was also told that if my answer didn't satisfy the questioner then I shouldn't automatically assume they were well-meaning. I apologise in advance if that offends, but as stated below this is a serious allegation and I have ample proof.

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To: mark_ikn who wrote (996)11/22/2021 2:31:46 PM
From: Gib Bogle
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I am not offended, just curious.

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To: Gib Bogle who wrote (997)11/22/2021 4:56:06 PM
From: LoneClone
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Let me say that Gib has been posting on SI for many years and we are also in e-mail contact. His Peru credentials are authentic and his question was serious.

But I also take Mark's point that one has to be very careful what one says about legal issues, particularly in a country with a, shall we say, fallible justice system like Peru's.

LC

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To: LoneClone who wrote (998)11/22/2021 5:06:35 PM
From: mark_ikn
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Thanks LC and I didn't want to sound out of turn, Gib, hence the pre-emptive apology. If you're okay with LC, we're good.

It's been a horrid few days having that perv on my back. Knowing somebody is spying on you and having to act relatively normally with loved ones on WhatsApp (we use it a lot) was more nerve-wracking than I imagined. The only silver lining was that MIRL filed its proxies a day earlier than expected. And a sigh of relief I could tell others to watch their backs at last, as well.

That creep Valdez needs to explain himself. Disgusting. Un asco total.


Now, who wants to claim board post #1000? :-)

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To: Kiwi Pom who wrote (987)11/22/2021 5:42:05 PM
From: marcos
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Quien calla otorga* <-- Rio Tinto needs to meditate on this sentiment for a bit ... sure the capital they have in play here is insignificant to them, but just the same they are involved, and there's reprehensible behaviour going on

Consider the situation of the community around Ollachea, who were promised responsible development and good jobs, years ago by Courtney Chamberlain ... and yes, by Benavides Norlander as well, ahem

* - loosely in english, 'silence is consent'

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To: Gib Bogle who wrote (993)11/22/2021 7:54:26 PM
From: Turtle_named_mack
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Search with the term "How to spy on a whatsapp number".

Fascinating!

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From: andrewlong11/22/2021 9:00:33 PM
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Yes, it is a fair question from Gib Bogle to Mark and ended up in a very decent conversation.

Given the current state of this particular incident, being silent on some aspects is good.
Sometimes a Private Message may be an avenue of communication.

The point I am making is that back in August there was a general understanding that we CS would be transparent. The bad 'guys' knew every move we were about to do etc.

Mark is the main target. What is happening to him (and his suggestion to us) can happen to anyone. So our guards are up. But also shows how low these 'guys' will stoop to make themselves look good.

andrewlong

p.s. note to bad guys, I am going to the bathroom, I will be back soon, do not take your eyes off the screen.

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