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From: Road Walker11/11/2019 6:10:00 PM
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Just announced, Tesla Model 6. (just having some fun with y’all on an up day)


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From: kidl11/12/2019 1:08:32 AM
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It's pretty obvious that prolific posters on this forum are bought and paid for.

No one can or would afford the time to these endless and completely useless arguments.

Get off your computer and do something productive.

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To: kidl who wrote (12383)11/12/2019 2:36:05 AM
From: Savant
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Considering you're one of the 'prolific' posters...how much have you been bought for and paid?

and consider that post of yours the last of attacks on other posters...period

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To: Eric who wrote (12372)11/12/2019 7:21:38 AM
From: nigel bates
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More likely they'll be swallowed in large scale mergers, and production will then be shuttered.

It's already started:
uk.reuters.com

The likes of Toyota are still throwing off more than enough cash to buy their way into the new manufacturing, irrespective of anyone's technical lead. And they are no longer in denial.

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To: nigel bates who wrote (12385)11/12/2019 7:51:32 AM
From: Eric
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More likely they'll be swallowed in large scale mergers, and production will then be shuttered.

Yes definitely.

Some of us expect over 1/3 of manufacturing and jobs will disappear in vehicle production over the next ten years or so.

ICE engines and transmissions going away, especially all of those parts suppliers becoming obsolete and not needed with electric propulsion. They will all be part of the "dustbin of history".

It's already getting ugly very rapidly for all the legacy manufactures.

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From: Eric11/12/2019 7:53:32 AM
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Tesla (TSLA) gets boost from Wall Street as shorts are short on arguments

Fred Lambert

- Nov. 12th 2019 6:20 am ET

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Tesla’s stock (TSLA) is on another rally and it is getting a boost from Wall Street analysts as the usual short arguments are starting to fade.

After a tough start of the year, Tesla’s third-quarter has launched a stock rally.

Tesla reported a surprise profit during the last quarter.

It isn’t the first time that the automaker has reported a profit, but it has had difficulties sustaining those profits.

Several analysts are now adjusting their models and one of them, Phillippe Houchois from Jefferies, says that the results were “consistent with sustained profitability.”

He wrote in a report to clients earlier this week”
“Stabilization in 2019 sets a better foundation for a return to growth in 2020 revenue and earnings. We value the absence of legacy issues, net growth in revenue and earnings and persistent technology edge from battery to autonomous.”
Houchois maintained a Buy rating on Tesla, but he raised the price target from $300 to $400.

Jefferies’ Phillippe Houchois is ranked #767 out of 5,642 analysts on TipRanks with a 60% success rate and a 14% average return. He has been maintaining a buy rating on Tesla all year:



Electrek’s Take

That’s the big question: is Tesla going to be able to sustain those profits?

I think they could go back in the red, but if they do, I think it would only be slightly in the red and not the losses we are used to with Tesla.

Tesla Gigafactory 4 in Europe is going to require a significant capital investment, but the bulk of that is coming next year and I have to assume that Tesla is going to wait until it has ramped up production at Gigafactory 3 in China.

That’s why I doubt we will see significant loses from Tesla again, which is taking the biggest argument away from the shorts.

At first, it was “demand is falling’ and then it was “it doesn’t matter if there’s demand because they don’t make money on the cars they are selling.”

Those arguments are going away and now the shorts are resorting to “Tesla is lying and defrauding people.”

Tesla is getting better at manufacturing cars profitably. Once Model Y gets into production in Fremont and Gigafactory 3, Tesla will be producing around 1 million cars per year and the shorts will become extremely quiet.

At that point, they will be able to finance most if not all of their projects while staying in the black.

Full disclosure: I am long TSLA and loving it.

electrek.co

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From: Eric11/12/2019 8:24:04 AM
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Firmware

Tesla Autopilot nears 2 billion miles driven, Full-Self Driving continues to improve


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By Simon Alvarez
Posted on November 12, 2019


It appears that Tesla Autopilot is closing in on yet another milestone. Just a year after reaching its 1 billionth real-world mile in Autopilot, the electric car maker’s fleet of vehicles appears to have traveled yet another billion miles, providing Tesla’s Full Self-Driving initiative with a total of 2 billion miles worth of invaluable driving data.....

teslarati.com

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To: kidl who wrote (12383)11/12/2019 8:36:43 AM
From: kidl
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It's pretty obvious that prolific posters on this forum are bought and paid for.

No one can or would afford the time to these endless and completely useless arguments.

Get off your computer and do something productive.
VERY sorry. This post was meant for a different forum

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To: kidl who wrote (12389)11/12/2019 9:04:21 AM
From: kidl
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To further clarify ... It was meant for this forum:

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From: Eric11/12/2019 9:41:22 AM
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Investor's Corner

The Tesla Model 3 is replacing BMW as the US’ ‘Ultimate Driving Machine’



(Credit: Tesla)



By Simon Alvarez
Posted on November 12, 2019


German-made automobiles have established their reputation for their excellence in selected segments. While Mercedes-Benz prides itself on building its vehicles for comfort and class, BMW prides itself on its cars’ driving performance. This is the reason behind BMW and its “Ultimate Driving Machine” moniker. Yet, in the electric age, there seems to be a single car that is steadily hacking into BMW since it was unveiled — the Tesla Model 3.

Bloomberg recently released the fourth part of its Model 3 survey, which aggregated data from 5,000 Tesla owners about their experiences and insights about the all-electric sedan. This time around, the publication focused on the Model 3’s effect on the market. And based on the results of its study, it appears that the Model 3 is now taking away customers from legacy automakers, including those who previously only had more affordable vehicles, as well as those that prioritize performance above all else.




(Credit: Bloomberg)

Data gathered by the publication showed that the BMW 3 Series was among the most popular cars that were traded in by owners who bought a Model 3. The BMW 3 Series joins other, more affordable vehicles like the Toyota Prius, the Honda Accord, and the Toyota Camry, as some of the top vehicles that have been traded-in for the all-electric vehicle. This means that customers are making a stretch to acquire the Model 3, and BMW 3 Series owners are likely coming over to Tesla due to driving performance.

This was mentioned by some respondents in Bloomberg‘s study. “I’ve owned three BMW 3 Series and was a diehard BMW fan. The Tesla blows those cars away,” one respondent noted.

It could be said that BMW is the veteran carmaker that is most vulnerable to the assault of the Tesla Model 3. Other carmakers whose vehicles are being traded-in frequently for Tesla’s midsize sedan such as Toyota have an extremely large presence in the United States. Thus, even if the Prius and the Corolla and the Camry take hits due to the Model 3, the company still has a healthy market share in America. This is not the case with BMW.


(Credit: Bloomberg)

With this in mind, BMW stands to lose far more than automakers like Toyota due to the Model 3’s advance. Couple this with benchmarking tests against the Model 3 such as those conducted by BBC‘s Top Gear, which concluded that “Electric Beats Petrol! Tesla Model 3 Outguns BMW M3” after the EV beat the petrol-powered car by 2 seconds at the Thunderhill Raceway Park in California, and the German automaker might very well find itself on dire straits soon. This was reflected in Bloomberg‘s study, which listed BMW as the most vulnerable brand against Tesla.

There are many things about the Model 3 that its owners love, but one former BMW X5 owner provided some deeper insight to the publication. According to the former BMW owner, Tesla’s consistent software updates make her vehicle feel brand new all the time, and it is simply something that is not matched by any other carmaker today.

“One of the things I absolutely adore about the Model 3 is that I feel like I get a new car about every 12 weeks. I have so many features now that I didn’t have when I bought the car a year ago. Normally, at about a year, year-and-a-half of ownership I’m already scouting out the freeways for what looks good, and I find that I don’t do that with the Model 3,” the Model 3 owner said.

The fourth part of Bloomberg‘s Model 3 survey could be accessed here.

teslarati.com

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