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From: Eric11/11/2019 9:00:28 AM
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Is The Chinese Tesla Model 3 Better Than The U.S.-Made Version?



Nov 11, 2019 at 8:49am

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By: Gustavo Henrique Ruffo

Made-in-China Model 3 First Drive: the Miracle

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Welcome to witness the debut of the first Made-in-China Tesla Model 3.

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This reviewer definitely thinks so. And he owns a made in U.S. car to compare both.

Chinese journalist Yan Chang says the Tesla Model 3 made in China is a miracle. Not only because the factory was not even there on January 7th, when Elon Musk laid its cornerstone: his central allegation is that the Chinese Model 3 is better than the American one. And Chang has strong arguments to support that.

Gallery: This Journalist Says The Chinese Tesla Mode 3 Is Much Better Than The American One




The first one is that he is a Tesla Model 3 owner himself for some time already, which gives him a reliable comparison basis. Secondly, Tesla provided him with information that supports the Chinese version is better in terms of water and sound insulation. It would also not have the same manufacturing defect the American version has, but what would Chang be referring to?

More Chinese Tesla News:



Tesla Shows Off First China-Made Model 3s: Model Y At Gigafactory 3?



Tesla Gigafactory 3 Construction Progress October 31, 2019: Video

He does not provide any information about that in the video. Still, he shows images of trunk hinge that allow us to compare the Chinese unit to the one produced in Fremont and sold to Joni Savolainen, in Finland. The first pictures of these vehicles we have seen suggest otherwise.



In other words, Chang suggests the paint is much better than the one on the American vehicle without calling a spade a spade. We will try to contact him to check precisely which defects he attempted to address.



Chang credits that to the Chinese expertise in manufacturing, and the broad experience in such the workers at Gigafactory 3 have. We wonder where they managed to acquire that experience since Shanghai has many factories from mainstream carmakers, such a VW and GM.



Chang says the Model 3 Standard Range will cost RMB 355,800 as a Standard Range derivative with Autopilot. That is equivalent to US$ 50,765, more than Tesla charges for the Long Range in the US, at US$ 48,490. In fact, you could even get a Performance version with US$ 6,225 more. Price is a definite disadvantage the Chinese customers will have, at least for now.



The Chinese journalist says that the insulation improvements related to water and noise are pretty noticeable, even after a short test drive, and that the Chinese factory will be able to correct production flaws very rapidly.



Chang states that the production is traceable, so Tesla knows when each defect may originate and avoid them quickly. The company just did not state what it will do to correct the defective units already in the hands of customers. Will they be repaired on Tesla's account? Or will Tesla say the warranty does not cover them, as it already has in multiple cases?



One good thing is that the rust issue on the left A-pillar will probably not show up at Chinese units of the Model 3. At least the vehicle Chang filmed does not seem to have it: the top of the left front fender does not seem to touch the body frame, as most units we have seen so far in Portugal and other European countries.



If that is confirmed, we would not call that a miracle but rather customers getting proper attention. We just hope these changes reach the Fremont plant as soon as possible. Or that Chinese Model 3 units are the ones slated for export to markets with no Tesla factories.

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From: Eric11/11/2019 9:27:23 AM
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The four cameras saved me $1000 and my driving record...

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To: Eric who wrote (12367)11/11/2019 10:32:49 AM
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Every time I see one of these one of these Tesla / Apple comparisons I can’t help but think of the Betamax vs VHS history. Superior technology and being the first one out of the gate doesn’t always guarantee winning the race.

Not trying to start a Betamax vs VHS debate. Just presenting it as food for thought. It’s not always wise to pick comparables based on a preferred / preconceived outcome.

Videotape format war en.wikipedia.org

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To: kidl who wrote (12371)11/11/2019 10:49:41 AM
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Yup

Sony didn't want to cross license.

I worked professionally in broadcast television at the time for PBS.

(Engineering)

Edit:

Most of the legacy vehicle manufacturers will go bankrupt.

They are falling further behind....

JMHO

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From: Eric11/11/2019 11:11:23 AM
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Investor's Corner

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To: Eric who wrote (12372)11/11/2019 11:21:26 AM
From: kidl
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Most of the legacy vehicle manufacturers will go bankrupt.

No, they won't. Governments will have no choice but to support them IF and when it gets dicey for the financially already challenged. The currently healthy big boys will not only survive the EV wave, they will come out on top.

As I have said many times ... This isn't a 100m dash. It's a marathon.

PS: Don't misunderstand this comment. I am no friend of government subsidies / bailouts of any kind.

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To: kidl who wrote (12371)11/11/2019 11:22:17 AM
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I've always thought recording length was the first consideration for the plebians…. I went with Beta for my first unit, I put up a 9 ft used satellite dish, for cheap, 24 hr free content in '84...and bgt a used Beta with 50+ tapes, for v.v.cheap, *$50) as that person wanted the 2 hr format of VHS...I upgraded to Super Beta, for even better quality, for video & music..it was cheap by then..later, also bought Super VHS, also used & cheap.
Eventually, went to DVD

For now, Tesla is winning the 'recording time' aka 'Range War' as well as superior performance...
As for legacy cos going BK...well, time will tell, but in the foreseeable future, most likely, not....certainly not all of them.

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To: kidl who wrote (12374)11/11/2019 11:23:49 AM
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It's quite simple.

We just don't need the numbers of vehicles that are on the road today.

Especially when autonomous vehicles take off over the next ten years or so.

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To: Eric who wrote (12373)11/11/2019 11:34:07 AM
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Picking a fight with Einhorn is neither smart nor productive and Teslarati pointing out Greenlight’s UK fine is nothing but stupid as Musk / Tesla have their own history of SEC fines and have various ongoing major lawsuits. The old “Glasshouse” analogy comes to mind.


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To: Savant who wrote (12375)11/11/2019 11:59:26 AM
From: kidl
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Savant: I too still own a Super Beta as well as a probably 25 year old Sony stereo system. It goes well with my love for classic cars. Indestructible quality and simplicity.

As for your Tesla comment ... No arguments here. We both see this as a “war” and not a battle. A crucial distinction which is why I view Tesla as a trading vehicle versus a long(er) term investment.

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