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To: Eric who wrote (12367)11/11/2019 10:32:49 AM
From: kidl
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Every time I see one of these one of these Tesla / Apple comparisons I can’t help but think of the Betamax vs VHS history. Superior technology and being the first one out of the gate doesn’t always guarantee winning the race.

Not trying to start a Betamax vs VHS debate. Just presenting it as food for thought. It’s not always wise to pick comparables based on a preferred / preconceived outcome.

Videotape format war en.wikipedia.org

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To: kidl who wrote (12371)11/11/2019 10:49:41 AM
From: Eric
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Yup

Sony didn't want to cross license.

I worked professionally in broadcast television at the time for PBS.

(Engineering)

Edit:

Most of the legacy vehicle manufacturers will go bankrupt.

They are falling further behind....

JMHO

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From: Eric11/11/2019 11:11:23 AM
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Investor's Corner

Tesla (TSLA) short responds to Elon Musk’s invite with odd demands and side remarks



teslarati.com

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To: Eric who wrote (12372)11/11/2019 11:21:26 AM
From: kidl
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Most of the legacy vehicle manufacturers will go bankrupt.

No, they won't. Governments will have no choice but to support them IF and when it gets dicey for the financially already challenged. The currently healthy big boys will not only survive the EV wave, they will come out on top.

As I have said many times ... This isn't a 100m dash. It's a marathon.

PS: Don't misunderstand this comment. I am no friend of government subsidies / bailouts of any kind.

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To: kidl who wrote (12371)11/11/2019 11:22:17 AM
From: Savant
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I've always thought recording length was the first consideration for the plebians…. I went with Beta for my first unit, I put up a 9 ft used satellite dish, for cheap, 24 hr free content in '84...and bgt a used Beta with 50+ tapes, for v.v.cheap, *$50) as that person wanted the 2 hr format of VHS...I upgraded to Super Beta, for even better quality, for video & music..it was cheap by then..later, also bought Super VHS, also used & cheap.
Eventually, went to DVD

For now, Tesla is winning the 'recording time' aka 'Range War' as well as superior performance...
As for legacy cos going BK...well, time will tell, but in the foreseeable future, most likely, not....certainly not all of them.

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To: kidl who wrote (12374)11/11/2019 11:23:49 AM
From: Eric
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It's quite simple.

We just don't need the numbers of vehicles that are on the road today.

Especially when autonomous vehicles take off over the next ten years or so.

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To: Eric who wrote (12373)11/11/2019 11:34:07 AM
From: kidl
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Picking a fight with Einhorn is neither smart nor productive and Teslarati pointing out Greenlight’s UK fine is nothing but stupid as Musk / Tesla have their own history of SEC fines and have various ongoing major lawsuits. The old “Glasshouse” analogy comes to mind.


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To: Savant who wrote (12375)11/11/2019 11:59:26 AM
From: kidl
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Savant: I too still own a Super Beta as well as a probably 25 year old Sony stereo system. It goes well with my love for classic cars. Indestructible quality and simplicity.

As for your Tesla comment ... No arguments here. We both see this as a “war” and not a battle. A crucial distinction which is why I view Tesla as a trading vehicle versus a long(er) term investment.

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To: kidl who wrote (12362)11/11/2019 1:44:53 PM
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OT ... Anyone who believes that social media is productive just needs to pay attention to how the supposedly most powerful person on earth is using it.

Elon should use him in his defense of his own social media nonsense / slip-ups. Trump is making Musk look like a “saint”.

Trump Tweets 82 Times In One Day

politicalwire.com


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From: Eric11/11/2019 2:28:06 PM
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Tesla Autopilot detects and avoids family of ducks caught on video, owner says

Fred Lambert

- Nov. 11th 2019 11:44 am ET

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A Tesla owner claims that Tesla Autopilot detected and avoided a family of ducks in the middle of the road and the whole incident was caught on the TeslaCam.

At a presentation about Tesla’s latest self-driving and computer vision capability earlier this year, Tesla Sr. Director of AI Andrej Karpathy said that they are currently working to identify and react to corner case scenarios that vehicles encounter on the road.

Karpathy says that they are pooling a lot of different rare events from their entire fleet of vehicles equipped with cameras in order to teach their Autopilot system to react to them.

With the release of TeslaCam, Tesla’s integrated dashcam feature, we are starting to see some more examples of these corner cases.

Earlier this year, we saw a video of Tesla Autopilot stopping for a rabbit on the road.

Now a Tesla owner claims that Tesla Autopilot managed to detect a family of ducks crossing the road and initiated the action to avoid them:
“In this video, the Tesla Model 3 autopilot detects a group of ducks crossing the highway and avoids them. The ducks survive!”
Here’s the video:

Near Miss - Tesla Model 3 Autopilot detects ducks crossing the highway

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In this video, the Tesla Model 3 autopilot detects a group of ducks crossing the highway and avoids them. The ducks survive!

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Electrek’s Take

Like the claims of Autopilot causing accidents, I like to take these with a grain of salt. Some owners are understandably not sure whether or not Autopilot initiated an action or not.

However, it does appear that Tesla is improving in detecting and avoiding objects on the road, which is a very important part of achieving full self-driving.

We have also recently noticed an increase in Tesla owners reporting Autopilot doing impressing maneuvers to prevent accidents.

A Tesla Model 3 owner claimed ‘Autopilot saved his life’ by swerving away in a near-miss on the highway and another similar incident was also caught on video earlier this year.

Later, we reported on a Tesla owner claiming that Autopilot saved his family from a crash in a near-miss caught on video.

The fact that Tesla introduced its TeslaCam feature also helps people record those events.

Unfortunately, due to the nature of near-misses, they will never be as popular as crash videos even though they are most-likely happening way more often.

electrek.co

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