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To: Eric who wrote (10146)6/16/2019 7:28:37 PM
From: kidl
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Listening to Lutz’s comments in the past served shareholders well. He correctly predicted the mass production issues and he correctly took issue with Musk’s unrealistic time tables.

This guy knew stuff Musk had to learn the hard way and this learning curve cost Tesla and its shareholders a lot of money.

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To: kidl who wrote (10147)6/16/2019 8:14:36 PM
From: MorganBucks
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Lutz was/ is wrong he was negative on Tesla when they went public, costing anyone that listened 1000% profits. Nothing goes straight up. All Jag electrics recalled , the brakes do not work. Tesla is years ahead of the other electric cars and the future is electric.

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To: MorganBucks who wrote (10148)6/16/2019 10:45:41 PM
From: FL_Guy
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How you calculating that "loss"?
Lutz was/ is wrong he was negative on Tesla when they went public, costing anyone that listened 1000% profits

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To: MorganBucks who wrote (10148)6/16/2019 11:12:31 PM
From: kidl
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Lutz was/ is wrong he was negative on Tesla when they went public
Simply not true.Back in the early days, Bob Lutz was a champion of Tesla and Musk, citing the Roadster as a major inspiration for the Volt, and saying that he would “always owe them a debt of gratitude for having kind of broken the ice.”

Lutz turned negative on Tesla a few years after the IPO (2014?) when it became clear that Tesla would remain a cash burning monster for many years to come. Those who got in on the IPO and got out when Lutz turned negative, did well. Those who stayed in, now find themselves with essentially a zero 5 year return as the SP is pretty well where it was in 2014.

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From: nigel bates6/17/2019 6:24:38 AM
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The Chinese real estate group Evergrande Group is investing the equivalent of around 23 billion US dollars in the construction of three plants for electric vehicles and their components in Guangzhou.

The plan is to build one production facility for no less than one million electric cars per year and two additional plants for the production of batteries with a total capacity of 50 GWh per year, (The Global Times reports this as being 500 GWh per year, which is clearely a typo and is refuted by Evergrande’s own press release.) In addition, electric motors and electronic control systems are to be manufactured in-house in one of the factories.

The Hong-Kong based real estate giant Evergrande Group has ambitious plans in the electric car business and has quickly been acquiring the necessary know-how – from the battery cell to vehicle production. After investing in Faraday Future, which was a rocky entry into the electric vehicle business, the two companies settled on Evergrande holding 31 per cent of the US startup’s shares. Shortly afterwards, Evergrande moved decisively along the electric vehicle product chain. In January this year, Evergrande Health became the new main owner of NEVS – Saab’s all-electric successor – as well as acquiring 20 per cent of the shares of similarly Swedish sports car manufacturer Koenigsegg. In March this year, Company boss Hui Ka Yan announced that “Evergrande aims to become the largest and strongest electric vehicle group in the world within three to five years.”

In early June, Evergrande’s new daughter NEVS also acquired Protean Electric, a British specialist for wheel hub motors, which are to be used in the electric vehicles of both NEVS and Evergrande. In addition, the Group has taken over the Chinese-Japanese joint venture Shanghai Cenat New Energy Co to develop battery cells.

Evergrande is a cash-heavy enterprise ready to make opportunities by means of massive investments and integrating technologies along the industrial chain....

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From: nigel bates6/17/2019 6:34:21 AM
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CATL Expected To Increase Production Capacity To 137 GWh In 2022

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To: Sr K who wrote (10134)6/17/2019 7:38:06 AM
From: A.J. Mullen
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Promise; a declaration or assurance that one will do a particular thing or that a particular thing will happen. We have had lots of circumlocutions to explain failed predictions such as aspirational targets. i was impressed by your chutzpah to ask such a question.

Kidl has answered your question fully. For me the greatest unfulfilled promise. or lie, was funding secured.


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From: Eric6/17/2019 7:46:57 AM
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Tesla’s owner-volunteers from China mobilize to help end-of-Q2 deliveries

Tesla Model 3 being delivered in Nanjing, China. (Photo: Vincent Yu/Twitter)

By Simon Alvarez
Posted on June 17, 2019

Tesla’s second-quarter deliveries in China are getting a rather unexpected boost, thanks to a number of electric car owners who are volunteering their time to help the company hand over as many vehicles as possible before the end of the month. Tesla is currently attempting to set new delivery records this Q2, and it would take every one of its delivery teams across the globe to dig deep to achieve its goal of beating Q4 2018’s numbers. The fourth quarter, after all, was a time when Tesla delivered more than 90,000 vehicles globally.

Reports from local Model 3 owners in China indicate that several owners have already become more involved in Tesla’s end-of-quarter delivery blitz. Similar to their counterparts in the United States, the Beijing-based Model 3 owners are helping new buyers get familiarized with their new vehicles. Some electric car owners have been doing this in actual delivery centers, while others are doing their part by providing useful information online. One Model 3 owner, who took delivery of his vehicle back in March, has even remarked that the cars coming to China today exhibit improved build quality.........

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From: Eric6/17/2019 8:08:56 AM
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When It Comes To Vehicle Design, Tesla & Others Are Planning ACES

Jun 17, 2019 at 7:40am


Massive changes are coming much sooner than many are willing to admit.

The automobile has always been a very dynamic product. Since cars came into widespread use in the early 20the century, almost everything about them has been constantly (albeit slowly) changing. Over the decades, vehicles have become more reliable, more powerful and more efficient, and a continuous stream of new features has made them more comfortable (AC, adjustable seats), more convenient (keyless entry, cruise control, GPS) and safer (from seat belts to airbags to collision-avoidance systems).

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Above: Tesla's Model 3 (Instagram: pichutesla)

Meanwhile, the appearance of our cars has gone through many phases, driven less by technical requirements than by shifting fashions. Most of us can guess which decade a movie was set in by looking at the cars, from the big boxy tourers of the 1920s to the rounded contours of the 1940s to the tail fins of the 1950s to the sleek sedans of the 1980s to today’s SUVs (which arguably are beginning to look a lot like those boxy tourers).

Much more change is coming, and it’s going to unfold much more quickly than ever before, thanks to a quartet of technological trends that some are now referring to as ACES (autonomous, connected, electric, shared). Tesla has been at the forefront of the first three of these developments, and intends to be a major player in the fourth as well.

In a recent article in The Conversation, entitled “ Cars will change more in the next decade than they have in the past century,” Dan Lewis, Claude C. Chibelushi and Debi Roberts take a look at some of the innovations that are coming down the road.

Above: Tesla's forthcoming Roadster is currently designed without side mirrors (Instagram: tesla_motorz)

Some changes will be cosmetic. The air intakes and grills that have long defined some brands’ signature looks will disappear, as electric powertrains don’t need them (Teslas never had them). Side rearview mirrors (wing mirrors across the pond) are also slated for extinction, thanks to improved camera technology and the need for better aerodynamics. (Tesla wanted to eliminate side mirrors on the Model X, but regulators wouldn’t allow it. Some European versions of the new Audi e-tron are spiegellos.)

Other changes will be much more fundamental - the advent of autonomy and new ownership models will gradually change the basic concept of what an automobile is. The Conversation predicts that, once humans don’t need to drive, windows could be adjustable in size - larger for better views (a la Tesla’s glass roofs), non-existent for naps. Cars could even have flexible layouts, able to be configured as a mobile office, a bedroom or a cargo carrier. Volvo’s 360c concept car presents one vision of this future.

The way we control our cars is evolving quickly, and the end result could be that they become like extensions of our human bodies. Augmented-reality systems will provide more and more information about a vehicle’s surroundings, and voice commands could someday develop into direct brain-to-computer interfaces, allowing occupants to control vehicles with pure thought. Cars will also communicate with various smart city features, from traffic signals to charging facilities to multimodal public transport.

The Car of the Future? [Volvo 360c] | The Tech Chap

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Volvo unveiled the 360c Concept Car at their HQ in Gothenburg, Sweden. The fully autonomous car is designed to revolutionise your commute, and could replace planes and trains with the luxury and convenience of a car. With the aim of launching in 5-10 years, just how practical is this car of the future?

Above: Volvo's 360c concept car could tease a few features we might see in future cars (Youtube: The Tech Chap)

Alongside the technological trends of ACES, business and political shifts are changing the makeup of the auto industry. Tomorrow’s configurable, self-driving electric cars may very well be designed in China or Germany, not Michigan (that is, unless the legacy US automakers start raising their games very soon). The Conversation speculates that tomorrow’s drivers (riders?) might not be riding in a Ford, a Chevy or a Beemer, but in a Tesla, a Dyson, an Apple iCar or a Google.


Written by: Charles Morris; Source: The Conversation

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From: Eric6/17/2019 9:01:37 AM
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Tesla Discontinues Long Range Rear-Wheel Drive Model 3

Jun 17, 2019 at 8:35am

By: Mark Kane, European Editor

In the latest edition, the Model 3 LR RWD was rated at 325 miles (523 km) of range. Now, customers need to choose between shorter range or all-wheel drive versions.

One of the latest change in the constantly changing Tesla offer is reportedly the discontinuation of the Long Range Rear-Wheel Drive version of the Model 3.

The Long-Range RWD was the first version of the Model 3, introduced in mid-2017. In recent months, Tesla removed the LR RWD and Standard Range RWD from the online design studio, offering the two only through direct call or a visit in the store.

Now, it seems that LR RWD Model 3 will not be available anymore - at least temporarily - probably to simplify the production process.

The news comes from customers, via Jeremy Judkins' video, who received info about the halt of LR RWD production at the Tesla plant.
"The BEST Tesla Model 3 was discontinued. You can't even order it off menu any more. I'm so glad I picked mine up before this happened!"
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The Tesla Model 3 Long Range Rear-Wheel Drive was one of the best value propositions on the market because it offered 325 miles (523 km) of EPA range, while the 0-60 mph acceleration of 4.9 seconds was not far from the AWD version (4.4 seconds).

It's a shame for price-sensitive Tesla customers who wanted long range, but not necessarily the top performance.

On the other hand, Tesla probably didn't produce a lot of those and the AWD version will be sold at a higher margin we guess. The streamlining of production at a busy Tesla Factory is also a likely reason.

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