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To: rzborusa who wrote (43237)10/21/2021 6:04:25 PM
From: Joe NYC
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Intel Cloud is - cloudy

Dylan points out the lead time for Milan and NVidia A100 is 20+ weeks and nobody wants Intel stuff...


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To: Joe NYC who wrote (43240)10/21/2021 6:10:16 PM
From: fastpathguru
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Anyone know what intc's net profit margin for the q was?

fpg

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To: fastpathguru who wrote (43241)10/21/2021 6:28:07 PM
From: Joe NYC
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So we get a Tweet today from Google Cloud mascot Stephanie Wong


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From: Joe NYC10/21/2021 7:02:07 PM
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Article on upcoming Mi200, which has been shipping since Summer, and soon to be announced.

Killer Instinct: AMD’s Multi-Chip MI200 GPU Readies for a Major Global Debut

hpcwire.com

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To: Vattila who wrote (43144)10/21/2021 9:26:45 PM
From: Joe NYC
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Revenue: 4.31
EPS: 0.72
Q4 forecast: 4.70

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To: rzborusa who wrote (43239)10/21/2021 9:52:22 PM
From: Joe NYC
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I think it is notable that Sapphire Rapids will enter production in Q1, ramp in Q2. But launch in Q1?

I had to go back, but that's what Pat said.

At this pace, it is possible that Genoa will actually overtake Sapphire Rapids in its real release. So it seems Intel is still screwed in the server market for another year, at least.

What is still saving Intel are the "captive" segments, that like 5G edge servers and Enterprise, where AMD has not had a strong penetration (even though AMD reported some progress on Enterprise last Q).

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To: Joe NYC who wrote (43245)10/21/2021 11:12:53 PM
From: rzborusa
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There was a mention, somewhere, that Intel held prices on some of the retail market, which they are still semi-monopolists in. Without which their revenue and margins would be more depressed.

Rather than going into disaster mode, which my girl friend experienced when she backed into an airplane propeller, disassedher, ..... Intel is enabling both themselves and AMD to maintain margins. That would not be possible if AMD had unlimited wafers.

Things are bad enough for Intel and will likely get worse unless a rabbit can be extracted from where I can't guess.

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To: rzborusa who wrote (43246)10/21/2021 11:44:08 PM
From: Joe NYC
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Here is another supercomputer in Sweden being installed.

65,000 Epyc Cores and future Graphics modules will have:

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GPU partitionThis partition will be equipped with GPU nodes, each of which will be configured with:

one AMD EPYC™ processor with 64 cores (which is currently under development)512 GB memoryfour AMD Instinct™ GPUs (which are currently being developed)

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Which looks like another supercomputer win for Mi200

Dardel | KTH

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To: rzborusa who wrote (43246)10/21/2021 11:58:41 PM
From: Joe NYC
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If AMD had unlimited wafers, I wonder if any of the cloud / hyperscalers would even consider Ice Lake. Intel market share would collapse. It might be that the demand supplied by Intel to Hyperscalers is the demand that AMD can't satisfy (if the lead times are really ~20+ weeks for Milan).

Looking further, Sapphire Rapids will have the same cores as Alder Lake big cores, and these cores can be quite power hungry when pushed. I can't find the link, but all core clock speed of 5.0 - 5.2 GHz on 8 of those cores burned 400 Watts.

Since SPR will have some 56 of these cores, they will have to be clocked way down. It seems Intel is still fiddling with the design to squeeze something competitive out of it.

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To: Joe NYC who wrote (43248)10/22/2021 2:16:19 AM
From: rzborusa
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but all core clock speed of 5.0 - 5.2 GHz on 8 of those cores burned 400 Watts.
Putting something like that, or under clocked, in any computer would be what you would do if that were the only alternative. But, it is like putting a piano in your kids tree house.

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