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   PoliticsManmade Global Warming, A hoax? A Scam? or a Doomsday Cult?

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To: Don Hurst who wrote (4290)11/7/2015 3:17:06 PM
From: sense
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The climate changes. It always has. It always will. Humans don't cause that.

That's not saying humans have no impact... or that there are not other good reasons to seek to obviate our use of fossil fuels as fuels... but, the CHOICE that has been made, to approach that goal in a particular way, was a POLITICAL choice... to structure particular "enemies" and particular political arguments... that happen to array along particular POLITICAL lines... having NOTHING to do with facts or science... but everything to do with politics and $. Which businesses fail, and which succeed, it turns out, when there isn't a proper free market function... is a function of politics. And, the flows of money into politics... and the flows of policy out of politics... depends on the politics of those who are made the winners and losers. There IS an agenda... and the idiots who are prosecuting that agenda as "global warming"... have deliberately chosen an untenable position... which the REAL science is rapidly proving to be bullshit. Reality is not going to cooperate with their choice... just because they insist it must.

The political reality... is that it was a known, at the time the choice was made... that there was a finite amount of time in which the political argument had to be won... in order to NOT have the weight of reality, with accumulating evidence, tip hard against those who are arguing, today, the modern equivalent of earth being at the center of the universe.

Why is the "science" settled... when they're repeatedly proven wrong in all their predictions ? LOL!!!

The only reason the science is "settled"... as a political argument... is that those losing the argument with the facts... don't benefit from having more facts proving them wrong. Of course, anyone arguing that the "science is settled"... is NOT arguing about the science... as that argument in itself is anti-scientific.

The goal posts keep moving. And, there's a reason for that... Which doesn't mean those who are being backed up into "adjusting" their arguments as they go... including cooking the data as required to get the answers they desire... are EVER going to admit they're lying ?

The political reality, now... is that the political fraud of global warming has already failed... and the fraud in the science that enabled it is rapidly unraveling... It doesn't matter how many hollywood actresses choose to believe what the left tells them to believe. It doesn't matter how many "scientists" paid through political patronage... support the "error" (in quotes... as error assumes a lack of intent). The science isn't "won" because the church works to enlist more "scientists" to vote against Galileo...

The rest... is social engineering and team sports... which is all you're doing. You've demonstrated ZERO ability to understand any science... you're just a political hack and a shill... pandering to those who already believe "oil companies are evil"... which, true or not, isn't in the least bit relevant. Or, it's only relevant in the political construct... proving, again, that what you are doing is politics, and not science.

"Global Warming" is a political creation... that has been enabled for political purposes... having NOTHING to do with "science"... other than in relation to the $ that is used in CO-OPTING "science" to support the political agenda... using a checkbook... as politicians continue assuming whores will be whores. There is no moral superiority that exists in any competition between Exxon's whores versus Al Gore's.

What that leaves, still, is the obvious in the claim humans are THE cause of change... which is total bullshit.

The evidence (real science... not political opinion) also shows no reason to think CO2 has any causal influence on any changes that are occurring. But, perhaps there are other things humans are doing that might have vastly more influence than CO2 ? If that were true... wouldn't it be really, really, really important to understand what those things were ?

The evidence shows CO2 has always been a LAGGING factor with a warming planet generating more CO2 following the fact of warming events. The only CAUSAL link that the DATA can be used to generate (and I'm not saying that would be a valid conclusion to draw, only because the "cause and effect" do occur in the proper sequence)... shows rising CO2 levels, following global warming events, PRECEDE subsequent cooling events...

To "win" the global warming argument... the advocates of anthropogenic warming are going to have to prove that over millions of years of history, dating long before humans were around... the climate has always warmed up in ANTICIPATION of higher future CO2 levels... to show the warming occurred because of the CO2. Don't think they won't try.

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From: sense11/12/2015 1:14:14 AM
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Cold sun rising

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To: sense who wrote (4292)11/12/2015 7:53:01 AM
From: J.B.C.
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Yep, the earth will get colder as a result, the current CO2 levels will begin to decline as a cooler ocean will have a greater ability to absorb so called greenhouse gases ( just like a can of soda does). And the cycle will begin again...lather - rinse - repeat.

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From: d[-_-]b11/17/2015 12:20:43 AM
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To: d[-_-]b who wrote (4294)11/21/2015 3:35:58 AM
From: sense
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It left off the corkscrew... for the economy...

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From: sense11/27/2015 1:21:07 AM
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The Consensus That Matters: 97 Percent Of Americans Aren’t Worried About Global Warming

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To: sense who wrote (4296)11/27/2015 4:06:29 PM
From: Hawkmoon
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Right now in my town it's 13 degree F with an expected high of 20F

Last year it was in the 60s, according to the historical data..

And there's also nearly 1/2 a foot of snow on the ground from the past 3 days..

All with a El Nino that is supposed to be making this a warmer than normal winter.. (Idaho)..



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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (4297)11/29/2015 2:05:17 PM
From: Sdgla
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Annual trip up to Lake Topaz in Cali. Left Tuesday and was snowed in until yesterday. Chains, Snow and low teen temps.. Winter wonderland. Off to visit my granddaughter who just got started at BYU in Idaho and she's telling be to bundle up.

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To: Sdgla who wrote (4298)11/29/2015 2:12:12 PM
From: Stephen O
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Cypress Mountain in West Vancouver has more snow now than at anytime last Winter

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To: d[-_-]b who wrote (4294)11/30/2015 2:53:34 PM
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Laughable: COP21 and Comedy Central share a logo style

Anthony Watts / 3 hours ago November 30, 2015

From the truth is stranger than fiction department. I was sent a photo showing the UN Logo being installed at the COP21 conference in Paris. Source: where they say “ Failure is not an option“.

Workers install a logo on the facade of the UN Climate Conference in Le Bourget, outside Paris, Nov. 23. The conference with more than 100 heads of state is scheduled to start on Nov.30. AP

In a twist of irony, the Comedy Central logo looks virtually the same:

Seems fitting. I’m sure we’ll get plenty of entertainment from COp21 this week.

h/t to Dr. Susan Crockford.

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