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To: nicewatch who wrote (791)3/13/2019 7:47:06 PM
From: FUBHO
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They would just put tiny heat sinks on the NVME controller die if heat was that serious an issue IMO.

2TB Intel NVME is down to $210 on newegg, if you don't mind 1.8GB/s instead of 3GB/s like top of the line. I can't imagine how anybody is buying any other brand with the prices Intel is charging for these.

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To: FUBHO who wrote (792)3/13/2019 8:10:39 PM
From: nicewatch
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Good to know, thanks, some of those older refurb owners might appreciate the value in size upgrade that usually was 256-512GB nvme back then! If it were me building new I'd shop for a top notch build all around, and we may finally be getting back to post cryptocraze reasonable prices for compute score dollar?

I loved the cryprocraze but it set back the DIY PC movement on a large group of people. Did it even result in more coders? doubtful.

Where is the ram market at now, new and old, high speed and legacy? Please forgive my ignorance, I haven't checked in a few months and last check it was still stubbornly high compared to other components.

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To: nicewatch who wrote (793)3/13/2019 8:21:31 PM
From: FUBHO
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DDR-4 RAM is still above twice the price low it reached a couple years back. I see some great deals on used DDR-3 ECC probably taken out of old servers, but who wants to build a system around such old ram, processor, mb. It would have great price/performance, but there would be all sorts of heachaches with new OS software.

I am waiting to do my next build when Intel is on 10nm and AMD is on 7nm for their mainstream chips.

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To: FUBHO who wrote (794)3/14/2019 3:12:59 PM
From: nicewatch
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The workstation refurbs were all DDR-3 ECC, that was two years ago and a bit before prices got crazy. I think those systems dated to 2012-2013 birth. Most builds were 64gb or 128gb of ram, depending on needs and budget. The last from scratch systems I built were 18 months ago, one was DDR-4, another was DDR-4 ECC and there was already a noticeable bump in ram price.

I called in a favor and got a deal on engineering samples of these, built two dual cpu systems, however my samples had a lower clock at 2.4GHz. Still a killer system now and especially back then:

cpubenchmark.net

If using ECC ram, used ram -usually server pulls- is the only way to go, imo. New ECC ram is always insanely priced compared to used.

What would you guess the performance % bump to be on Intel and AMD moving to 10nm and 7nm respectively? I've read a few articles about it but it seems like educated guesswork until the silicon hits the street and can be independently tested. The AMD Threadripper looks interesting to me if I were to build a system today, which I am not.

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To: nicewatch who wrote (795)3/14/2019 3:30:38 PM
From: FUBHO
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RE:What would you guess the performance %

The performance bump will be negligible. But they will have Spectre/Meltdown mitigation built in. Intel adds a couple Deep Learning instruction boost instructions. Better power. Hopefully more cores for the same money.

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To: FUBHO who wrote (796)3/14/2019 3:32:15 PM
From: nicewatch
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Good to know, thanks!

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From: shadowman5/5/2019 2:16:22 PM
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Microsoft promised to stop installing unstable updates when you click “Check for Updates” and now it’s delivering. Rather than automatically installing such updates, Windows gives you a “Download and install now” button. The button started appearing on PCs today. (MAY 2, 2019)



howtogeek.com





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To: FUBHO who wrote (794)5/31/2019 12:53:43 AM
From: goldworldnet
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I really want a Ryzen 7, maybe in 2020.

Josh

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To: nicewatch who wrote (797)6/6/2019 11:49:09 PM
From: goldworldnet
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Asked a young guy at Racetrack I talk with if he had a computer and he said no.

Anyway, I can put something together for him mostly out of spare parts.

He's a good kid and this is something that will make me feel good.

I told him I would build him a computer.

Josh

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To: goldworldnet who wrote (800)6/7/2019 3:02:31 PM
From: goldworldnet
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His computer will have a FX6300 with an old Visio 32" TV.



cpubenchmark.net

Will put Windows 10 Pro on it.

Currently he has to go to the library to use a computer and he's a smart kid.

All I'm doing is paying forward the good that has been done for me.

Josh

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