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To: Drygulch Dan who wrote (5401)10/31/2019 9:24:55 AM
From: johnlw
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Thx Dan
The scale of development is hard to fathom from afar. Vacationing there, one isn't off the beaten path far enough to fully notice it.
The population of Canada is less than the state.

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To: EL KABONG!!! who wrote (5402)10/31/2019 9:33:01 AM
From: johnlw
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Thanks EK

Vicious cycle to break.
I have a friend who was involved in forestry management here in AB. Years before the Slave Lake and Ft. Mac fires he was part of a group that made recos for towns and cities in the boreal forest as far as fire prevention and management went. It was put in the corner cupboard and then the fires happened. Apparently a similar study is getting traction now.

Most of it was common sense, basic recos but no one had the will to implement them.

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To: johnlw who wrote (5403)10/31/2019 11:37:41 AM
From: Drygulch Dan
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There’s room for you guys too! Bring em all down, we’ve got sun, ya’ll can die early of skin cancer too!

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To: EL KABONG!!! who wrote (5402)10/31/2019 8:05:14 PM
From: LoneClone
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Much of Florida, the Carolimas, and the Gulf Coast will likely also become unlivable over the next few decades due to increased hurrican activity and ocean level rise. If I have interpreted the affected populations correctly, there will be many more Republican voters displaced than Democrats.

Then there are the desert states like Nevada, New Mexico, Arizona, and much of Texas which will likely lose much of their water supplies and likewise become uninhabitable.

An interesting aspect to keep track of...

LC

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To: LoneClone who wrote (5406)11/1/2019 1:20:56 AM
From: Drygulch Dan
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This is rather wild speculation with very little logic to support it. consider that Nevada is down stream from much of the Sierra water flow. Yet also has very low population, How does that work out ? The two major population centers Reno and Vegas are close to major river flows and benefit from both respectively.

Sea level rise is on a slow track of about 3.5 millimeters. Per year. At that rate no one alive today would live to see much ocean incursion in Florida much less states north of there. In 100 years or so maybe someone somewhere might built a sea wall barrier to protect an area. It’s been done before elsewhere. I wouldn’t lose any sleep over that matter. Speaking of hurricanes, records of these go back quite a few hundred years as we know that name came from the indigenous people of the Caribbean islands in the time of Columbus. So back to the little ice age period at least. And there’s probably some scientific studies that have identified indications of these types of storms going back thousands of years. It will take a lot to drive the v out of the south, probably something on the order of trying to drive the Canadians out of the bush.

I have lived in Florida, Mississippi, Nevada besides Calif and Oregon. I have visited most of the rest of the states you mention. Weather is different in all those places. Good thing humans are an adaptable species.

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To: Drygulch Dan who wrote (5407)11/1/2019 2:35:04 PM
From: LoneClone
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What happens if, of maybe better when, when the snow packs disappear from the mountains that feed the rivers? This is the same possibility that the residents of the Canadian provinces east of the Rockies are refusing to even consider.

The figure you cite for sea level rise is the global figure; local conditions normally make the effective rise at least double that. And of course water expands at it warms, exacerbating the problem. Throw in ever more powerful hurricanes and the situation becomes dire for the areas I mentioned. Once the salt water gets in...

Yes, I was speculating, given that I am talking about the future. People has been criticizing me for my pessimistic outlook on the environment for decades, but in almost every case it has unfortunately turned out that I wasn't pessimistic enough.

LC

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To: LoneClone who wrote (5408)11/1/2019 6:12:45 PM
From: Drygulch Dan
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With regard to snow in the mountains you have to consider dry adiabatic lapse rates. Hint, these are not your friends.

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From: LoneClone11/1/2019 7:04:44 PM
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Big storm in Quebec -- lots of flooding and more than a million (!) homes without power at present.

LC

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To: LoneClone who wrote (5410)11/1/2019 7:14:45 PM
From: Old_Sparky
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Big storm in Quebec -- lots of flooding and more than a million (!) homes without power at present.

But looking on the bright side, they don't have any dirty oil pipelines that might be leaking. My schadenfreude is overflooding also.

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To: Old_Sparky who wrote (5411)11/2/2019 6:59:31 PM
From: LoneClone
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Your post was highly inappropriate for this collegial board.

While you are contemplating that, you can rejoice that there are still half a million without power, including infants, the elderly, the inform etc. Does that make you fell good?

LC

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