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To: Eric who wrote (12718)3/27/2023 7:57:03 PM
From: robert b furman
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Hi Eric,

Thanks for the info.

I'm totally unimpressed with EV capabilities as they do not match my use. Live in a rural area, and travel from Houston suburbs to Rural Wisconsin with 5 cats over a 12 hour two day drive several times a year. Not interested in making it a longer drive in time.

But it is nice to be informed and I thank you for that.

If one bought a Tesla, what would be the minimum monthly billing beyond charging? software updates and location services etc?

Bob

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To: robert b furman who wrote (12720)3/28/2023 9:28:02 AM
From: Eric
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Bob

Software updates to Tesla's cars are free.

GPS navigation and trip mapping service is free. To get enhanced data services such as Internet access or if you want to use your Netflix account a flat fee is $9.95 a month.

What I love is the streaming service. I can listen to any station in the world that streams. BBC, ect. Heck even CNBC or CNN or better yet watch them live when the vehicle is stopped!

Young folks love a "connected car", even this oldster is hooked.

Since I usually only charge the vehicle once every few weeks for local driving (usually off my solar array on the house) there are no bills.

Then there are the Superchargers on the road:

supercharge.info

But the fun part is preconditioning the car before I get in it with the smartphone app.. Warm the car interior in the winter or cool it off in the summer.

On long road trips it's nice to keep the interior at a set temp when parked and we are out of it eating or exploring before getting back into it.

You can't do that with an ICE car in a garage.

I should add that this is possible on more and more electric vehicles, not just Tesla.

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From: kidl3/28/2023 9:48:10 AM
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Swimming against the stream ...

VW Canada announces $2,500 price increase on new and existing ID.4 orders - Drive Tesla (driveteslacanada.ca)

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From: Eric3/28/2023 10:07:07 AM
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A World-Class System? Lucid Air Hoist Review Part 1



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We (finally) got our hands on a Lucid Air and are doing a special TWO-PART hoist review! In this initial installment, Jordan reviews the underbody of the front half of the vehicle.

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Fastener Frenzy! Lucid Air Hoist Review Part 2



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From: Eric3/28/2023 10:18:28 AM
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Image from Volvo Trucks

Clean Transport

Swedish Mining Group Boliden Is Getting Electric Trucks From Volvo For Underground Mining Operations



By

Remeredzai Joseph Kuhudzai

Published 38 seconds ago

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Campus-based operations such as mines are some of the best places for utilizing electric vehicles. The nature of their operations often revolve around regular, repetitive routes at well known times and intervals, making it fairly straightforward when it comes to setting up charging infrastructure onsite and managing fleet charging. It’s safe to say drivers of heavy electric trucks in these environments will not be too worried about range anxiety even with full loads of heavy rocks.

In underground operations, electric trucks also have the added advantage of no exhaust emissions as well as providing a much quieter working environment. In some exciting news, the Swedish mining group Boliden is becoming one of the first in the world to start using battery-electric trucks for heavy underground transport starting this year.

The mining industry is today going through a period of rapid change as the world places more emphasis on ESG matters. A lot of players in the mining industry are shifting to more sustainable production methods to provide metals with a lower climate footprint. Exhaust gases from diesel vehicles are responsible for the majority of the carbon dioxide emissions from Boliden’s mines, as is the case in the mining sector in general. Boliden is committed to reducing its CO2 emissions by 40% by 2030 and therefore the electrification of transport will play a critical role for Boliden to achieve its climate goals.

The new cooperation agreement between Boliden and Volvo Trucks will start with two heavy electric Volvo trucks which will be used in Boliden’s Kankberg mine, outside Skellefteå in northern Sweden. If all trucks in the mine were to be electric, the CO2 emissions from the mine could be reduced by more than 25%.
“This is an exciting collaboration in an environment with very tough demands; steep slopes, heavy loads and humid air that wears on the vehicles,” says Jessica Lindholm, project manager at Volvo Trucks. “The collaboration with Boliden will give us valuable knowledge about the performance of electric trucks when driven underground, and provide answers to questions about how the driveline and batteries are affected. Reduced carbon dioxide emissions for mining transport also means that we, indirectly, will reduce our own CO2 emissions, because the mining industry’s raw materials are used in our trucks.”

The first truck to serve the Kankberg mine, a Volvo FH Electric, will be used to transport rock bolts and other equipment down into the mine. Based on the experience with the first truck, another Volvo FH Electric will later be put into operation and used for underground transport of rock and ore.

“We see the collaboration with Volvo as a fantastic opportunity to push the electric technology forward and at the same time learn how to adapt our operations for a transition to fossil-free underground transport. A major benefit of the trucks is that they will contribute to a more sustainable mine, both in terms of emissions and also the working environment for our employees,” comments Dennis Forslund, project manager at Boliden. “In addition, the total amount of energy consumed in the mine will be lower as electric drive is more energy efficient than a diesel engine, and it is possible to capture the electricity regenerated during engine braking on downhill slopes.”

Volvo Trucks says it offers the industry’s widest range of electric trucks, with six electric truck models in series production, and is the market leader in heavy electric trucks in Europe and the US. The company’s electric trucks can cover many different transport needs, ranging from urban distribution and refuse disposal to regional transport and construction traffic. Volvo’s goal is that 50% of its new trucks sold in 2030 should be electric.

With Volvo trucks having started deliveries of heavy electric trucks in Morocco and soon to start deliveries of heavy electric trucks in South Africa in May of this year, the mining sector in Africa provides another huge opportunity for Volvo to provide its range of electric trucks. The mining sector is pretty huge in places like Ghana, South Africa, Tanzania, and Zimbabwe. Large mining companies in these countries have already started installing large solar PV plants to help cut down their diesel and heavy fuel oil bills. It would be great to see these firms start to add heavy electric trucks as well very soon.

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To: Eric who wrote (12721)3/28/2023 10:31:50 AM
From: robert b furman
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Hi Eric,

I appreciate the education. <smile>

It would be handy as a second car for short trips.

I just have these long distance drives in between Texas to Wisconsin.

My ride with my buddy who just bot a Tesla S, did show in a much nicer way what the ADAS system sees and shows.

Bob

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To: Eric who wrote (12724)3/28/2023 11:10:56 AM
From: kidl
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One of the junior minors I watch closely is spending a lot of money and time on mine ventilation to accommodate ICE equipment / mainly hauling truck related air quality issues.

An industry where electrification could have a very instant benefit to workers.

It's being adopted but at a very slow pace for some reason.

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To: kidl who wrote (12726)3/28/2023 2:02:51 PM
From: Eric
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Yes, mine ventilation can be critical especially with underground coal mines and resulting coal dust and methane leakage. Shall we say boom boom. A very potentially dangerous job!

Coal mines in Appalachia for example electrified mining equipment many decades ago (sealed, sparkproof electric motors for example). They were corded in the old days working the face of the mine ripping coal.

Just one spark with a combustible mixture.

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From: Eric3/28/2023 2:08:04 PM
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Hyundai Considers Own U.S. Charging Network; U.S. & Japan Reach Battery Deal - Autoline Daily 3535



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From: Eric3/28/2023 5:52:41 PM
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DALL·E generated image of a very large crude carrier steaming toward the sunset, digital art

Boats

Oil Tankers Already Sailing Into The Sunset Of Peak Oil Demand

The number of new VLCCs to be delivered in 2024? Zero. The number to be delivered in 2025? One.



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Michael Barnard

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A global shipping logistics contact, Steven De Jaeger of Remant Transport Architects, reached out to share a very interesting data point and article with me. It seems no one is ordering new oil tankers these days.

“The numbers are stunning. The ratio of crude tanker capacity on order to crude tanker capacity in service is now down to an all-time low of 2.7%, according to Clarksons Securities.

“For very large crude carriers (VLCCs; tankers that carry 2 million barrels of crude), it’s a mere 1.7%. VLCCs are vital for transport of crude exports from the U.S. Gulf and the Middle East. There will be 910 VLCCs of all ages on the water by the end of this year. The number of new VLCCs to be delivered in 2024? Zero. The number to be delivered in 2025? One.

“The situation is almost as severe on the product tanker side. The orderbook-to-fleet ratio for product tankers is down to just 6.1%.”

The claims made in the article are interesting, but there are a lot of what appear to be excuses surrounding the primary cause, which is that peak oil demand is coming likely later this decade and so buying a 25-year lifespan capital asset is likely to lead to it being stranded. In the case of oil tankers, literally stranded, not just fiscally as will be the case with the Trans Mountain Pipeline tripling.

For context, Norwegian oil giant Equinor, fossil-fuel heavy consultancy McKinsey, and the International Energy Agency have all published scenarios that include peak oil demand between 2025 and 2030, with a combination of COVID-19 and the European energy crisis accelerating the shift away from a high-carbon economy. Peak coal was 2013, with a return to those levels briefly in the 2022 energy crisis. Peak natural gas I project as likely around 2035.


Global Shipping in Megatonnes of Freight, chart by author

In my maritime shipping projections of tonnage, energy requirements, refueling with batteries and biofuels, and related carbon curves, this results in a return to roughly 2017 levels by 2030, about 3,000 megatonnes of oil and gas, then a decline by a third each decade through 2050, followed by a slower decline to roughly 200 megatonnes in 2090 and 2100. 40% of bulk shipping is coal, oil, and gas, and that’s mostly going away. Another 15% is raw iron ore and that’s going to diminish with more scrapping and more local processing. As always, through a glass darkly, big error bars, etc.

This isn’t exactly a difficult projection to make, although the oil and gas industry doesn’t want to talk about it, the IEA has challenges with it, the US EIA has similar challenges with it, and the maritime shipping industry has been pretending it’s not going to occur. Many are pretending that peak oil demand will result in a decades-long plateau, but that’s wishful thinking. Why?

80% of fuel demand is for ground transportation, and that’s all going to electrify. That’s low-hanging fruit. As I published recently, India is at 83% heavy rail electrification with a target of 100% within years. China is at 72% and climbing. Europe is at 60% and climbing. China’s 600,000 electric buses and 500,000 electric trucks make it clear that all but niches of off-road will be electric. Pipelines will see dwindling crude, gas, and diesel loads, with bankruptcies and consolidation, done strategically and well in some jurisdictions, and badly with fuel shortages in others.

Western countries’ new car sales are dropping, not rising. In a recent review of the statistics, I saw only one country, Germany, with any rise at all year over year, and that was 1%. Asian purchases are rising, especially in China, but China is already buying well over 60% of plug-in vehicles annually. Electric airplanes and electric ships will eat into fuel requirements for those segments steadily over the next 30 years, and biofuels will eat most of the rest.

One of the excuses made in the article for the empty order book is that dual-fuel ships are expensive and no one knows what will end up being the replacement. I am of the opinion that batteries and biodiesel that’s plug compatible with today’s engines will dominate. Maersk and the global methanol industry are betting on green methanol, which I think is a pretty poor idea for cost comparisons to biofuels, dual bunkering logistics in ports, 2.2x tank sizes in ships, and higher health concerns. Green ammonia is other organizations’ preference, but that has mostly worse challenges than methanol and much higher health risks.

The Global Center for Maritime Decarbonization is running big projects to test safe ammonia bunkering, on-ship carbon capture and biofuel sourcing and bunkering. As I said to Lynn Loo, CEO of the organization recently, it’s great that the work is being done, as concrete results showing that ammonia and shipboard carbon capture aren’t viable will shut down those faint hope pathways more effectively than people like me pointing out the obvious, and sourcing and validating biofuels requires back tracing supplies that needs to be operationalized.

So there’s truth to the shipping industry’s complaint about lack of certainty. But the real issue is stranded assets. No one is willing to sign long-term contracts for crude deliveries to guarantee paying off the ships in seven or eight years of service because everyone is staring at the cliff’s edge.

Big ships these days are $60-$120 million. They have lifespans of 20-25 years. There are already 910 very large crude carriers (VLCC) plying the waters and canals carrying crude, and many of them could be extended for a few years of extra life. And new ships are going to get more expensive.

Regardless of potentially $15 million more, over 10%, for dual-fuel engines and on board fuel storage, an unlikely requirement in my opinion, there’s a different issue at work. In the past several days I’ve published a new decarbonization projection, global steel demand, supply technologies, and carbon emissions through 2100. There’s a good news story there, including a massive rise of scrapping of steel we’ve already made to 75% globally, along with proven technologies for decarbonization. Scrap steel with electric arc furnace minimills powered by renewable electricity won’t be more expensive, but new steel from direct reduction using green hydrogen, biomethane, and renewable electricity likely will be.

And big ships use a lot of steel. A VLCC uses about 40,000 tons of steel, and there are 910 of them. That’s 36.4 million tons of future scrap steel right there, or about 40% of the steel the US uses in a year. Less than US pipelines it turns out, which have four years of steel for the country if scrapped. And that’s just one category of ship. Ships have become more expensive to build in recent years, and a rise in the cost of steel is a large factor in that.

Steel prices going up. Oil futures at risk. No idea what fuel combinations to buy engines and tanks for. Risky bets on fuels costing $15 million per ship. It’s a bit of a perfect storm, and it’s sinking the order books of maritime shipping industry, at least for this category of ship. The major shipyards of the world are full of container and LNG ships, and a growing number of electric retrofits and new builds, so it’s not hurting them yet, but it will be.

cleantechnica.com

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