| From: kidl | 3/25/2023 9:51:27 AM | | | | | | Agreement on combustion engine phase-out: Germany wrests an exemption from the EU for e-fuels
Startseite WirtschaftCreated: 25.03.2023, 13:07
By: Jens Kiffmeier
Has reached an agreement in the dispute over the combustion engine: Federal Transport Minister Volker Wissing (FDP). © Britta Pedersen/Julian Stratenschulte/dpa/MontageDispute ended: Germany and the EU have confirmed an agreement on the combustion engine. For example, the German government pushed through the exemption for e-fuels.
Berlin/Brussels – Now with exception: Even after 2035, new cars can be registered in the European Union (EU) with combustion engines. The condition: They can only be refuelled with a climate-neutral fuel. This agreement on the combustion engine has now been reached by the Federal Government after a long struggle with the EU Commission, as Federal Transport Minister Volker Wissing announced on Twitter on Saturday (25 March). Especially for the FDP, this is a point victory. However, in many EU countries, the German position continues to meet with rejection.
For months, Germany had argued with the EU about burning. Late on Friday evening, the agreement was reached. "The way is clear: Europe remains technology-neutral. Vehicles with combustion engines can also be newly registered after 2035 if they only fill up with CO2-neutral fuels," Wissing wrote on the social platform. This would secure opportunities for Europe "by giving us important options for climate-neutral and affordable mobility".
Combustion engine phase-out: EU and Federal Government around Volker Wissing reach an agreement in the dispute over e-fuelsThe European Parliament and the EU member states had originally agreed in October that only emission-free new cars may be registered in the EU from 2035 – which had caused many car owners great concern about the residual value of their car. For Germany, however, it was important that new cars with combustion engines that fill up with e-fuels – i.e. climate-neutral artificial fuels generated with green electricity – could still be registered afterwards.
A confirmation of the agreement by the EU states planned for the beginning of March was therefore initially prevented by Germany – especially at the instigation of the FDP, which had already anchored the use and promotion of e-fuels in the coalition agreement of the traffic light coalition. Since then, the Federal Ministry of Transport and the EU Commission have been negotiating a compromise. The end of combustion engines was then also the dominant topic at the EU summit last Thursday.
Agreement on the end of combustion engines: Cars with combustion engines may also be registered after 2035In the past few days, an agreement on the combustion engine had been indicated. However, a confirmation was still pending. But now the planned regulation is to be adapted quickly. You will work on a speedy implementation, said EU Commission Vice-President Frans Timmermans also on Saturday on Twitter.
However, the jubilation over the compromise that had been looming for days was limited outside Germany. Many EU partners had reacted irritated to Germany's behaviour in the dispute. On Thursday, for example, Latvian Prime Minister Krisjanis Karins spoke on the sidelines of the EU summit in front of running cameras of a "very, very difficult sign for the future". It is surprising that a government suddenly decides differently after an agreement has already been reached, the news agency dpa quoted him as saying.
Karins warned, "The entire architecture of decision-making would fall apart if we all did that." Behind closed doors, diplomats in Brussels were more explicit. They accuse Germany of a breach of trust. (jkf/dpa) |
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| To: Eric who wrote (12712) | 3/25/2023 11:45:21 AM | | From: robert b furman | | | | Hi Eric,
When you go up to a charger, how does one determine the cost of the electricity and a ball park of how much is needed and how long it ewill take to get the charge?
Or is it you need it and you pay it and wait however long it takes (I suspect you get to know your car and its battery as well? Seems like you would not really know the charger if you are on the road?
TIA
Bob |
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| To: robert b furman who wrote (12715) | 3/27/2023 5:14:05 PM | | From: Eric | | | | Hi Bob,
A very deep subject with lots of numbers.
Tesla cars can just plug into Tesla's Superchargers and get a rapid charge. You just have to have a credit card in your account with them. Drive up, plug in with no cards required at the charge point! Charging costs very depending what local utilities charge, a flat rate per kWh.
The most reliable charging network in the world and simplest to use. And typically the cheapest.
For other electric cars you can pull up to these charging stations in NA.
These usually require a monthly membership fee or for a higher fee just swipe your credit card and prices are displayed on the charger. They can charge you by the minute or kWh.
Some examples:
evgo.com
chargepoint.com
And many others! |
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| To: Eric who wrote (12718) | 3/27/2023 7:57:03 PM | | From: robert b furman | | | | Hi Eric,
Thanks for the info.
I'm totally unimpressed with EV capabilities as they do not match my use. Live in a rural area, and travel from Houston suburbs to Rural Wisconsin with 5 cats over a 12 hour two day drive several times a year. Not interested in making it a longer drive in time.
But it is nice to be informed and I thank you for that.
If one bought a Tesla, what would be the minimum monthly billing beyond charging? software updates and location services etc?
Bob |
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| To: robert b furman who wrote (12720) | 3/28/2023 9:28:02 AM | | From: Eric | | | | Bob
Software updates to Tesla's cars are free.
GPS navigation and trip mapping service is free. To get enhanced data services such as Internet access or if you want to use your Netflix account a flat fee is $9.95 a month.
What I love is the streaming service. I can listen to any station in the world that streams. BBC, ect. Heck even CNBC or CNN or better yet watch them live when the vehicle is stopped!
Young folks love a "connected car", even this oldster is hooked.
Since I usually only charge the vehicle once every few weeks for local driving (usually off my solar array on the house) there are no bills.
Then there are the Superchargers on the road:
supercharge.info
But the fun part is preconditioning the car before I get in it with the smartphone app.. Warm the car interior in the winter or cool it off in the summer.
On long road trips it's nice to keep the interior at a set temp when parked and we are out of it eating or exploring before getting back into it.
You can't do that with an ICE car in a garage.
I should add that this is possible on more and more electric vehicles, not just Tesla. |
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