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From: Clark Kent3/24/2023 4:05:01 PM
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Aptera Autonomous Driving — openpilot™
they're not giving up just yet......

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Aptera is pleased to announce that it will integrate openpilot™, the number one ranked driver assistance system by Consumer Reports, in its solar electric vehicles.

This move will allow Aptera drivers to enjoy road trips with openpilot™’s advanced features including adaptive cruise control, lane centering, and forward collision warning.

The driver monitoring system will ensure that drivers remain attentive while using the system. Openpilot™, created by, is not affiliated with Aptera. Read more here

Even though openpilot™ has vastly surpassed nearly all driver assistance systems on the market today, big auto players have not embraced it. They continue to throw hundreds of millions of dollars into developing their own inferior systems, while openpilot™ is open-source software that anyone can implement for free.”

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To: Eric who wrote (12702)3/24/2023 4:41:19 PM
From: gg cox
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So you are charging your Tesla with grid and solar power at home,,as you have stated here many times.

Have you ever had a problem?

I haven’t,, not once in 8 years ,, so ,,, just bloody misleading , and foolish .

What does talking to JD Power have to do with a misleading and foolish untrue article.

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From: Eric3/25/2023 8:49:38 AM
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What does talking to JD Power have to do with a misleading and foolish untrue article.


The article just points out the fact that more education of the public is needed to emphasize the big advantage of electric vehicles over fossil fueled ones.

The actual cost of energy needed to move them down the road.

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From: gg cox3/25/2023 9:24:55 AM
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Good god.

When anyone buys an electric car and plugs it in to the grid surely they know it is going to cost them money

through their electrical bill to charge, and drive it.


Here’s a solution,,, walk ,, bike,,jog run pogo.

Substitute ice cars into the headline.

Internal Combustion Car owners are becoming increasingly frustrated with the cost of gasoline.

Here’s a solution,,, walk ,, bike blah blah…
It must have been a slow news day ,and bold the “revelation “ as a knock on EV’s too.
Anyway no biggy , I just made a comment that’s all. :+)

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From: Eric3/25/2023 9:28:00 AM
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Image courtesy of Connected Kerb

Clean Transport

Connected Kerb & Surrey County Council Aim For 10,000 Public EV Charging Points By 2030


Jennifer Sensiba

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One of the biggest obstacles to EV adoption is the need for home EV charging. The ability to charge electric vehicles at home is necessary in order for drivers to have the needed range every day without inconvenience, but many homes do not have the infrastructure in place to support this. In the case of apartments and single-family homes without driveways, there’s just no way to get home charging at all. This leaves people depending on public chargers for a charge every few days, making it far less convenient than a gas car.

While transit fanatics will tell us that people should just not own a car, that’s just not realistic in many places that have long depended on cars for transportation. That’s something to work on, but it can’t happen fast enough. So, we need to explore alternatives.

One good alternative is public charging along residential streets, or as one organization calls it, “Connected Kerbs.” By putting public stations in as many other places as possible (like workplaces and stores), too, the need for home charging can be alleviated or solved entirely.

That’s why it’s great news that Connected Kerb and Surrey County Council have joined forces to deliver the 10,000 electric vehicle (EV) charge points needed across Surrey by 2030. This ambitious rollout of charge points at over 1,500 locations is the largest deployment of EV chargers by a UK local authority and will make it easier for residents to take advantage of the many benefits offered by electric vehicles.

The installation of these charge points in streets and public car parks represents a major step forward in accelerating EV uptake in Surrey, paving the way for an environmentally friendly transformation that will reduce air pollution levels and enable more people to switch to greener forms of transport.

This ambitious rollout is set to deliver more than 5,000 fast charging points by 2027, including over 500 rapid charging points, resulting in an increase from one charger per 9,000 residents in Surrey to an estimated one charger per 2,500 residents.

“If one local authority can deliver such a significant boost to the UK’s charging network, just imagine what we could achieve by 2030 if every city, county, and combined authority was empowered to do the same. The recent Net Zero Review was clear – local authorities can become the driving force behind the rollout of charging infrastructure across the country, and our partnership with Surrey County Council is case and point,” said Chris Pateman-Jones, CEO of Connected Kerb. “If local authorities are the door to a clean transport future, then charging networks like Connected Kerb are the key, providing the tools and expertise needed to unlock the transition at the pace and scale required to reach net zero. Although the Government’s estimate of 300,000 chargers by 2030 may feel ambitious, it’s eminently possible – and necessary – to achieve; this deal proves it.”

The recently published Net Zero Review by Rt Hon Chris Skidmore MP highlighted the importance of local authorities taking a leading role in rolling out charging infrastructure. The partnership between Surrey County Council and Connected Kerb demonstrates the commitment to meeting these ambitions, as well as keeping up with the growing demand and adoption of electric vehicles — up 40% in 2022 compared to 2021.

“Today’s announcement marks another step in the growth of our public chargepoint network, enabling more and more motorists to make the switch to electric vehicles,” said MP Skidmore. “The UK is seeing hundreds of millions of pounds of private investment in EV charging across the country, with valuable support from the Government, and it’s great to see innovative British companies like Connected Kerb working with local authorities to deliver ambitious projects such as this one.”

This groundbreaking initiative will take charge points to over 1,500 locations across Surrey, making it easier for residents to switch to greener forms of transport while enjoying all the benefits that electric vehicles have to offer. This rollout is expected to drive a cleaner and more sustainable future for the county, paving the way for an environmentally friendly transformation that will reduce air pollution levels and benefit everyone in Surrey.

The partnership between Connected Kerb and Surrey County Council will see a rapid rollout of on-street chargepoints across the county, with plans to install hundreds of chargepoints within the first year. In recognition of the need to make EV adoption a practical reality for the 2.35 million blue badge holders on UK roads, this ambitious undertaking sets an additional target to make one in five of the EV charging bays accessible to drivers with disabilities.

Inclusivity and accessibility have been at the heart of the Net Zero Review and Connected Kerb’s annual report, with a goal of ensuring equal access to reliable charging in both urban and rural areas. This commitment to accessible and reliable charging network has delivered remarkable results — in 2022, the company achieved a 99.1% uptime for its charging network.

Connected Kerb’s product range is set to be rolled out across Surrey, consisting of 7kW and 22kW Gecko chargers, Chameleon chargers for on-street and car parks, and the wall-mounted Limpet and Scarab throughout housing developments. The Chameleon charger has been designed with accessibility needs in mind.

In addition to EV charging points, the contract includes Connected Kerb’s social value projects. These initiatives will see them providing industry support to pupils interested in learning about electric vehicle chargepoints, employability support for vulnerable young people and backing a number of charities in the county. All this stands to deliver significant value to Surrey residents.

This announcement is significant for Surrey residents as it shows how Connected Kerb’s product range and social value projects will play a role in enhancing their day-to-day lives. The EV charge points on its own would be a great benefit to many, with the added bonus of support for local educational centers, vulnerable youth and charities making it an even more meaningful investment.

Hopefully more local governments, not just in the UK, but everywhere else, will look at this and try to do things like it. Drivers who can’t install home charging would benefit greatly, as would everyone else who lives and breathes nearby.

Featured image provided by Connected Kerb.

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To: gg cox who wrote (12711)3/25/2023 9:30:34 AM
From: Eric
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No problemo.

It's fun for me seeing more folks getting into electric cars.

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From: kidl3/25/2023 9:51:27 AM
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Agreement on combustion engine phase-out: Germany wrests an exemption from the EU for e-fuels

Startseite WirtschaftCreated: 25.03.2023, 13:07

By: Jens Kiffmeier

Has reached an agreement in the dispute over the combustion engine: Federal Transport Minister Volker Wissing (FDP). © Britta Pedersen/Julian Stratenschulte/dpa/MontageDispute ended: Germany and the EU have confirmed an agreement on the combustion engine. For example, the German government pushed through the exemption for e-fuels.

Berlin/Brussels – Now with exception: Even after 2035, new cars can be registered in the European Union (EU) with combustion engines. The condition: They can only be refuelled with a climate-neutral fuel. This agreement on the combustion engine has now been reached by the Federal Government after a long struggle with the EU Commission, as Federal Transport Minister Volker Wissing announced on Twitter on Saturday (25 March). Especially for the FDP, this is a point victory. However, in many EU countries, the German position continues to meet with rejection.

For months, Germany had argued with the EU about burning. Late on Friday evening, the agreement was reached. "The way is clear: Europe remains technology-neutral. Vehicles with combustion engines can also be newly registered after 2035 if they only fill up with CO2-neutral fuels," Wissing wrote on the social platform. This would secure opportunities for Europe "by giving us important options for climate-neutral and affordable mobility".

Combustion engine phase-out: EU and Federal Government around Volker Wissing reach an agreement in the dispute over e-fuelsThe European Parliament and the EU member states had originally agreed in October that only emission-free new cars may be registered in the EU from 2035 – which had caused many car owners great concern about the residual value of their car. For Germany, however, it was important that new cars with combustion engines that fill up with e-fuels – i.e. climate-neutral artificial fuels generated with green electricity – could still be registered afterwards.

A confirmation of the agreement by the EU states planned for the beginning of March was therefore initially prevented by Germany – especially at the instigation of the FDP, which had already anchored the use and promotion of e-fuels in the coalition agreement of the traffic light coalition. Since then, the Federal Ministry of Transport and the EU Commission have been negotiating a compromise. The end of combustion engines was then also the dominant topic at the EU summit last Thursday.

Agreement on the end of combustion engines: Cars with combustion engines may also be registered after 2035In the past few days, an agreement on the combustion engine had been indicated. However, a confirmation was still pending. But now the planned regulation is to be adapted quickly. You will work on a speedy implementation, said EU Commission Vice-President Frans Timmermans also on Saturday on Twitter.

However, the jubilation over the compromise that had been looming for days was limited outside Germany. Many EU partners had reacted irritated to Germany's behaviour in the dispute. On Thursday, for example, Latvian Prime Minister Krisjanis Karins spoke on the sidelines of the EU summit in front of running cameras of a "very, very difficult sign for the future". It is surprising that a government suddenly decides differently after an agreement has already been reached, the news agency dpa quoted him as saying.

Karins warned, "The entire architecture of decision-making would fall apart if we all did that." Behind closed doors, diplomats in Brussels were more explicit. They accuse Germany of a breach of trust. (jkf/dpa)

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To: Eric who wrote (12712)3/25/2023 11:45:21 AM
From: robert b furman
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Hi Eric,

When you go up to a charger, how does one determine the cost of the electricity and a ball park of how much is needed and how long it ewill take to get the charge?

Or is it you need it and you pay it and wait however long it takes (I suspect you get to know your car and its battery as well? Seems like you would not really know the charger if you are on the road?



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From: longz3/25/2023 12:14:54 PM
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A Rivian Buyer Waited 3 Years for His Dream Car. It Died Within Days. (

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To: Clark Kent who wrote (12708)3/25/2023 1:03:24 PM
From: kidl
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Aptera – Openpilot … Never heard of this outfit. Seems to have a bit of a checkered past.

openpilot - Wikipedia

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