| To: Eric who wrote (12691) | 3/23/2023 7:17:23 PM | | From: gg cox | | | | << Would I pipe H thousands of miles?
No way. Same goes for all fossil fuels.>>
Except ,,fossil fuels have been pipelined, trucked ,ocean transported successfully and relatively successfully
and relatively EFFICIENTLY for many years.
<<< Just electricity.
Photons to electrons rule.
(Well... maybe some windpower too!)>>>
Absolutely.
Think Bezos and his folly of hydrogen forklifts in his warehouses when electrons all throughout his buildings.
Battery fork lifts have been around for 100 years and have only improved with lithium ion.
Elon is also schooling him in rocketry with every Falcon 9 launch. |
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| To: kidl who wrote (12693) | 3/24/2023 8:24:13 AM | | From: Eric | | | | Transitions cost money.
In this case it's to the advantage of Europeans to get off foreign oil. It's more expensive than electrons.
Norway is the exception but depletion is inevitable. But they have been putting money in the bank anticipating the end.
Get serious with renewables or "pay da man", or dictators you cannot trust.
Then there are the pollution aspects.
The logical choice is pretty darn obvious. |
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| To: Eric who wrote (12697) | 3/24/2023 9:18:43 AM | | From: kidl | | | | | What you are advocating will in all likelihood happen; just not within overly ambitious essentially unrealistic timelines. Many EU countries are realizing that they can’t make this “2035” arbitrary target without severely damaging their economies. To put it in very simplistic terms: What good is a totally “green” society if we bankrupt the society in the process? Europe needs to ensure that its car and car related industry can survive. Who else is going to foot the Putin induced expenses? BTW, much the same applies to the country you call home. |
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| To: Eric who wrote (12698) | 3/24/2023 10:23:55 AM | | From: gg cox | | | | Eric,, what a silly article and misleading headline.
Our Leaf has been charging at night when rates are lowest for 8 years now,, controlled by timer setting in the
car. The wall unit ,,with the connecting plug to the car,, is just the connection to the grid or solar system
and is not the charger ,, which is in the car as most here know ,and trouble free and works great. :+)
Of course I’m talking about level 2 charging. |
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| To: kidl who wrote (12699) | 3/24/2023 11:21:27 AM | | From: Eric | | | | Being dependent on Putin (Russia) finally backfired for Europe. A lot of folks knew this day was coming. Just as being dependent on SA was stupid.
There are many options and all the technology is available today, some of it for decades to get off of fossil fuels.
Oh we have "doubters" here, especially some politicians still living in the past with their heads stuck in the sand.
These actors are doing a disservice to Nature, the planet, sustainability and ultimately jobs.
We all want European vehicle manufactures to succeed.
Unfortunately some of them don't want to take the necessary steps. |
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