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To: rogerover who wrote (1198)7/19/2011 3:21:14 PM
From: peter michaelson
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If you consider the printing and postage costs, $1,000,000 might send out how many mailers? 500,000? 99% get thrown away. 5000 people briefly consider it and 500 people buy a few shares.

Anyone think figures like that are in the ballpark?

If we assume the shares have no long term value at all, then any purchases of shares over the $1,000,000 are pure profit. Well, I'm sure there are tons of other costs that I'm not considering.

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To: peter michaelson who wrote (1199)7/19/2011 5:15:44 PM
From: Amit Ghate
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I would think that the true "value" provided by the promoters is having the right mailing list. Profits go up substantially if the "hit" rate improves from even 1% to 2%; someone who's got a real list of suckers might do 5% (completely hypothetical numbers).

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To: Amit Ghate who wrote (1200)7/19/2011 5:23:04 PM
From: peter michaelson
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I would love to do a series of interviews with people who actually buy the promoted stock. What a great PhD thesis that would make.

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From: Tim Lento7/21/2011 9:10:50 AM
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PLSB 07/20/11 $1.3M

I also previously received these via email, check out how the budget grows.

04/29/11 sectorwatchonline.com
06/10/11 sectorwatchline.com


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To: Tim Lento who wrote (1202)7/21/2011 12:21:05 PM
From: Mr. Park
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Strange that you received this over a month after the disclaimer date. They must have dropped the mail in a few batches.

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From: ParadoxTrader7/25/2011 4:06:30 AM
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CMCI.ob 7/23/11 $607k Larry Isen Emerging China $tock$[sic, see scan below] feat "what's on legendary billionaire global investor Jim Rogers mind?" Magazine stylee, 18 pages, thick front and back pages and thinner glossy inside pages.

First rec'd orig 'report' from an email fwd on 5/1/11, given as a free report upon initial email signup to emergingchinastocks.com w/only "Disclosure: Long Shares of CMCI , and not afraid to take a profit in the $1.75 to $2.50 range."



The page 10 Jim Rogers quote is "Instead of getting an MBA, get yourself a farming degree. You'll make a lot more money." -Investing legend, Jim Rogers // FWIW Jim Rogers isn't mentioned anywhere else on that page or anywhere else in the magazine.

Pardon the excessive red underlining below, it was by mistake/looked like it wasn't working for the whole line

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From: Kevin Podsiadlik7/25/2011 10:56:33 AM
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ENTB.PK: Getting a bunch of emails from Mesa Marketing under its various brands. Compensation is given as "400,000 free-trading shares" which is over $500K at current prices.

Our NEW explosive growth biotech pick has HUGE NEWS this morning!

PPC's brand new alert ENTB is set for a big day as the company released super exciting news which could land them $900,000 in additional revenues!


(Not even one meeelion? Hype just ain't what it used to be.)

ENTB is chaired and CEO'd by David Koos who has a track record around here.

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To: peter michaelson who wrote (1199)7/26/2011 4:05:11 PM
From: Q.
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Peter, you were asking about the cost of mailers

"If you consider the printing and postage costs, $1,000,000 might send out how many mailers? 500,000?"

That would be $2 per mailer.

I looked for some ads, and it looks like 12-page full-color brochures cost about $0.40 each
pbdink.com

Postage is around $0.40 for standard (bulk rate) up to 3.3 ounces.

You'd have to pay somebody to do the mailing, too.

So I'd guess the total cost is somewhere around $1 for a glossy color 12 page mailer.


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To: peter michaelson who wrote (1199)7/26/2011 6:29:45 PM
From: Smilodon
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Richard Appel (former stock promoter) of pre-promotion stocks said that they look for around 4x the cost of the promotion in volume. So with a $1 mil mailer, they would want to generate around $4 mil of stock trades to be a success.

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From: Tim Lento7/26/2011 9:10:33 PM
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SILV 07/26/11 $200K via email bit.ly


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