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From: Greg or e10/20/2014 12:40:35 PM
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This Lesbian's Daughter Has Had Enough
By Rivka Edelman
My name is Rivka Edelman, and I am the product of same-sex parenting.

Recently I published an essay on Public Discourse about the ruthless misogyny that pervades LBGT culture. I pointed out it that it can and will victimize women and children with impunity and then, in America’s narcissistic fugue, get hailed as brave and heroic.

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Since my essay was published, there have been hundreds, maybe thousands, of posts calling me a liar or trying to shame, discredit, intimidate, and threaten me. Read this for details. People I do not know have gone directly after my family and my job. They have posted information, mis-information, accusations, and threats against me. A vicious abusive “activist” well-known for his unhinged misogynistic cyber-stalking and violent threats, Scott Rose, sent blast e-mails to the university where I teach, describing himself as a “human right activist and an investigative journalist.”

Scott Rose has made threats of violence against Ryan T. Anderson, the editor who published my piece on October 2, 2014:


"The only good anti-LGBT bigot is a dead anti-LGBT bigot."

And menacing threats against me:



As with other adults who have come forward to criticize their childhood with gay parents, I am framed as a bigot or a liar or in some other way “unreliable.” In this flip-flop, a children’s rights activist and feminist is called “anti-gay” and a “bigot.”

Jeremy Hooper, Mr. Rose, and a gang of the allies who congregate and exchange information on Hooper’s blog, “Good As You,” are concerned about an amicus curiae brief I wrote in the Texas case regarding same-sex marriage (Fifth Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals). Along with three other adults who were raised by same-sex couples, I came forward to push back against the assertion that children have no disadvantages when raised by same-sex couples. Our arguments are not so easy to dismiss.

On Jeremy Hooper’s blog, activists have dug through all my past to make it public. They have also discussed contacting my ex-husband to get him to lie about me for them.



The Texas case is still pending. To date, the voices of adult children of the LBGT community have been stifled, but by some miracle four briefs were accepted in Texas against the objections of the pro-gay lobby side, which invoked procedural technicalities to try to get the four briefs thrown out. Three of the four amici curiae have published commentary on same-sex parenting here.

Once “activists” connected my Public Discourse piece of October 2, to the Texas brief, they went full throttle. Jeremy Hooper, the blogger at Good as You, uses his blog as a platform to harass, bully, and silence with impunity. Hooper published comments from his readers and thereby shared our home address and my daughter’s private information. They contacted other family members looking for information. They are not picky; true or made up assertions work for them equally.

To my ex husband, Rose wrote:

We can conclude with reasonable certainty that significant details of her young life were left out of her brief[.]

Mr. Rose wants my ex-husband to fill in the blanks. He was told never to contact my ex again. He has harassed me with the e-mail version of drunken dialing. And as the outrage against Mr. Hooper grows wider, he says he has no control over the comments. He says he never even met Rose. He cites law for polish. Hooper is careful and deliberate to say that sometimes he does not agree with Rose’s tactics.

I do not believe Mr. Hooper. He indeed allows commenters to leave violent threats against me. Under Hooper’s editorial review, my work information, along with my child’s name and people’s addresses, circulated freely.

Here Mr. Rose, human rights activist (is that a day job?), threatened my career with much bravado:

She thought she was going to get away with demonizing gay people behind pseudonyms “Ryvka Edelman” … et cetera, but my message to the gay-bashing bigot is YOU’LL NEVER EAT LUNCH IN THIS TOWN AGAIN.

She can forget that one.

And now that editors and English Department Chairs know that [Rivka Edelman] is a vicious anti-LGBT bigot, they have more information for their publishing and hiring decisions.

P.S. to Rivka – Rots a Ruck getting your work published in any non-religious, non-bigot publication, now that the world knows that [Rivka] is a malicious, lying, anti-LGBT bigot.

The police have his name now.

Perhaps they see us, the adult children of gay homes, as a threat, so we are attacked and our families threatened. They posted on Craigslist looking for information about me.



Good God. Maybe I’m on Grindr, too.

Next they deploy “activist” “Straight Grandmother.” She is the one who floats the idea of contacting my ex in the first place.

She states in an e-mail to my ex-husband:

... Her Amicus Brief to our Federal Court Judges in the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals ... The only thing they have going is their personal narrative, which makes it very difficult to discredit ... how much if their personal narrative is made up just to further their Hate Agenda. The only way we have to discern the truth is to delve into their personal narrative.

They savage, bully, and threaten adults who grew up with gay parents in order to force a false narrative of happiness on them. More Orwellian logic.

Straight Grandmother goes on explaining the ins and outs:

It invades people's personal privacy. But then on the other hand, they are the ones themselves who are offering up their personal lives as reasons to deny gays Civil Rights. See how this puts gay rights advocates between a rock and a hard place? They kind of force us to do something distasteful, but if we don't then their lies stand.

They admit a pattern to invade people’s privacy – the new McCarthyism.

SGM says:

This is why I am contacting you and what I would like to know about XXXX, well specifically XXXX's mother ... if you are able to get an actual affirmation or rejection from the brother[.]

Here they are looking for more family. I can’t help but feel that whatever organization pays these men should be investigated.

The writer continues:

I don't know if you will provide the true answer to my question or not. I hope you will. And actually you don't even have to respond to me. You can respond to Jeremy Hooper ( contact@GoodAsYou.org) with the truth. Jeremy WILL protect you, but if you are brave you could have the fact attributed to yourself.

That promise to “protect” seems to confirm that Mr. Hooper knows this commenter and that they have planned to contact my ex-husband to get information.

This e-mail ends:

Remember Federal Judges are reading the Life Story of XXXX as told by her. Her story as written by her, may influence a Judges ruling.

To cover himself Mr. Hooper says that some activists':



Now that I have established the ins and outs of Jeremy Hooper’s blog, I can say I recognize these abusive behaviors as part of the culture I grew up in. Notice the lack of accountability, the deflections.

We the adult children are currently in the process of getting our stories ready for publication. And as gay marriage becomes the law of the land, we have expectations moving forward. We demand that the HRC publically honor and acknowledge our experience and issue apologies in print and online for all the attacks against all of us. And rectify immediately all that we have suffered by activists connected to the HRC or GLAAD.

This cautionary tale should travel far and wide: a family threatened, people’s privacy invaded, harassment, threats, bullying, unwanted contact, abusive mischaracterization, incurred financial hardship.

These men may have revealed much more about themselves and the movement than they realize and damaged their credibility. I would not want to be Mr. Hooper or Rose when they realize that nobody will ever trust them again – no, not really, and not ever. They are like the writer who gets caught plagiarizing or a researcher who fakes results. There will always be “that” question in the back of people’s minds.

Let’s make a name for these guys – the one they have earned. Send this on to others.

My name is Rivka Edelman, and I am the product of same-sex parenting.

Recently I published an essay on Public Discourse about the ruthless misogyny that pervades LBGT culture. I pointed out it that it can and will victimize women and children with impunity and then, in America’s narcissistic fugue, get hailed as brave and heroic.

Since my essay was published, there have been hundreds, maybe thousands, of posts calling me a liar or trying to shame, discredit, intimidate, and threaten me. Read this for details. People I do not know have gone directly after my family and my job. They have posted information, mis-information, accusations, and threats against me. A vicious abusive “activist” well-known for his unhinged misogynistic cyber-stalking and violent threats, Scott Rose, sent blast e-mails to the university where I teach, describing himself as a “human right activist and an investigative journalist.”

Scott Rose has made threats of violence against Ryan T. Anderson, the editor who published my piece on October 2, 2014:


"The only good anti-LGBT bigot is a dead anti-LGBT bigot."

And menacing threats against me:



As with other adults who have come forward to criticize their childhood with gay parents, I am framed as a bigot or a liar or in some other way “unreliable.” In this flip-flop, a children’s rights activist and feminist is called “anti-gay” and a “bigot.”

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Jeremy Hooper, Mr. Rose, and a gang of the allies who congregate and exchange information on Hooper’s blog, “Good As You,” are concerned about an amicus curiae brief I wrote in the Texas case regarding same-sex marriage (Fifth Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals). Along with three other adults who were raised by same-sex couples, I came forward to push back against the assertion that children have no disadvantages when raised by same-sex couples. Our arguments are not so easy to dismiss.

On Jeremy Hooper’s blog, activists have dug through all my past to make it public. They have also discussed contacting my ex-husband to get him to lie about me for them.



The Texas case is still pending. To date, the voices of adult children of the LBGT community have been stifled, but by some miracle four briefs were accepted in Texas against the objections of the pro-gay lobby side, which invoked procedural technicalities to try to get the four briefs thrown out. Three of the four amici curiae have published commentary on same-sex parenting here.

Once “activists” connected my Public Discourse piece of October 2, to the Texas brief, they went full throttle. Jeremy Hooper, the blogger at Good as You, uses his blog as a platform to harass, bully, and silence with impunity. Hooper published comments from his readers and thereby shared our home address and my daughter’s private information. They contacted other family members looking for information. They are not picky; true or made up assertions work for them equally.

To my ex husband, Rose wrote:

We can conclude with reasonable certainty that significant details of her young life were left out of her brief[.]

Mr. Rose wants my ex-husband to fill in the blanks. He was told never to contact my ex again. He has harassed me with the e-mail version of drunken dialing. And as the outrage against Mr. Hooper grows wider, he says he has no control over the comments. He says he never even met Rose. He cites law for polish. Hooper is careful and deliberate to say that sometimes he does not agree with Rose’s tactics.

I do not believe Mr. Hooper. He indeed allows commenters to leave violent threats against me. Under Hooper’s editorial review, my work information, along with my child’s name and people’s addresses, circulated freely.

Here Mr. Rose, human rights activist (is that a day job?), threatened my career with much bravado:

She thought she was going to get away with demonizing gay people behind pseudonyms “Ryvka Edelman” … et cetera, but my message to the gay-bashing bigot is YOU’LL NEVER EAT LUNCH IN THIS TOWN AGAIN.

She can forget that one.

And now that editors and English Department Chairs know that [Rivka Edelman] is a vicious anti-LGBT bigot, they have more information for their publishing and hiring decisions.

P.S. to Rivka – Rots a Ruck getting your work published in any non-religious, non-bigot publication, now that the world knows that [Rivka] is a malicious, lying, anti-LGBT bigot.

The police have his name now.

Perhaps they see us, the adult children of gay homes, as a threat, so we are attacked and our families threatened. They posted on Craigslist looking for information about me.



Good God. Maybe I’m on Grindr, too.

Next they deploy “activist” “Straight Grandmother.” She is the one who floats the idea of contacting my ex in the first place.

She states in an e-mail to my ex-husband:

... Her Amicus Brief to our Federal Court Judges in the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals ... The only thing they have going is their personal narrative, which makes it very difficult to discredit ... how much if their personal narrative is made up just to further their Hate Agenda. The only way we have to discern the truth is to delve into their personal narrative.

They savage, bully, and threaten adults who grew up with gay parents in order to force a false narrative of happiness on them. More Orwellian logic.

Straight Grandmother goes on explaining the ins and outs:

It invades people's personal privacy. But then on the other hand, they are the ones themselves who are offering up their personal lives as reasons to deny gays Civil Rights. See how this puts gay rights advocates between a rock and a hard place? They kind of force us to do something distasteful, but if we don't then their lies stand.

They admit a pattern to invade people’s privacy – the new McCarthyism.

SGM says:

This is why I am contacting you and what I would like to know about XXXX, well specifically XXXX's mother ... if you are able to get an actual affirmation or rejection from the brother[.]

Here they are looking for more family. I can’t help but feel that whatever organization pays these men should be investigated.

The writer continues:

I don't know if you will provide the true answer to my question or not. I hope you will. And actually you don't even have to respond to me. You can respond to Jeremy Hooper ( contact@GoodAsYou.org) with the truth. Jeremy WILL protect you, but if you are brave you could have the fact attributed to yourself.

That promise to “protect” seems to confirm that Mr. Hooper knows this commenter and that they have planned to contact my ex-husband to get information.

This e-mail ends:

Remember Federal Judges are reading the Life Story of XXXX as told by her. Her story as written by her, may influence a Judges ruling.

To cover himself Mr. Hooper says that some activists':



Now that I have established the ins and outs of Jeremy Hooper’s blog, I can say I recognize these abusive behaviors as part of the culture I grew up in. Notice the lack of accountability, the deflections.

We the adult children are currently in the process of getting our stories ready for publication. And as gay marriage becomes the law of the land, we have expectations moving forward. We demand that the HRC publically honor and acknowledge our experience and issue apologies in print and online for all the attacks against all of us. And rectify immediately all that we have suffered by activists connected to the HRC or GLAAD.

This cautionary tale should travel far and wide: a family threatened, people’s privacy invaded, harassment, threats, bullying, unwanted contact, abusive mischaracterization, incurred financial hardship.

These men may have revealed much more about themselves and the movement than they realize and damaged their credibility. I would not want to be Mr. Hooper or Rose when they realize that nobody will ever trust them again – no, not really, and not ever. They are like the writer who gets caught plagiarizing or a researcher who fakes results. There will always be “that” question in the back of people’s minds.

Let’s make a name for these guys – the one they have earned. Send this on to others.

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2014/10/this_lesbians_daughter_has_had_enough.html#ixzz3Ghi0E8vx
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From: Greg or e11/13/2014 1:19:40 PM
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You’re Christian? You need to get treated for that.

Jonathon van Maren Follow Jonathon
A year ago at the Festival of Dangerous Ideas in Australia, I watched with interest as Christian commentator Peter Hitchens debated with a panel of people dedicated to the Sexual Revolution—radical feminist Germaine Greer, journalist Hanna Rosin, and the popular and much-published pervert Dan Savage.

As the token conservative on the panel, Peter Hitchens was constantly forced to defend the most basic civilizational concepts, from the value of marriage to how we treat our children. But one exchange with Dan Savage really stood out to me. That was when Savage responded to Hitchens by accusing him of being “paranoid and projecting.”

Christianity, apparently, is nothing more than something one needs to go to rehabilitation for, a mental disorder requiring extensive detoxification. Which is precisely why courts are increasingly trying to send those who dissent from the New Moral Order of the Sexual Revolution to rehabilitation and mandatory diversity training.

Hitchens interrupted angrily: “This is the intolerance! Because I hold an opinion different from his, he has suddenly become a qualified pyscho-analyst who can tell me that my opinions are opinions which I am entitled to hold, but are a pathology—and this is the absolute seedbed of totalitarianism. When you start believing that the opinion of others are a pathology, then you are in the beginning of the stage that leads to the secret police and the gulag. You cannot imagine that anybody else is entitled to hold a view different from yours without believing that he has some personal defect.”

Or as the late great William F. Buckley said, “Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to find out that there are other views.”

When Buckley made his witty comment, our culture was still in many ways oriented by residual Christian values. The anger of Peter Hitchens, however, is well-warranted today, as atheist clean-up crews and totalitarian progressives try their very best to root out every cultural symbol with any marginal connection to Christianity. While the Australian crowd laughed loudly at the suggestion that Christian beliefs might be suppressed (how quickly we forget history!) and Dan Savage protested loudly that he was, in fact, tolerant, a brief scan of left-wing news prove that Hitchens’ fears are far from paranoid.

Just a couple days ago, The Daily Beast ran an article titled “ Why Are Millenials Unfriending Organized Religion?” It turns out that physicist Lawrence Krauss, a close friend of late atheist polemicist Christopher Hitchens, had recently mused that our culture could be on the verge of extinguishing religion:

“Change is always one generation away,” he told the audience, referencing the rapid cultural shifts on gay marriage and slavery, “so if we can plant the seeds of doubt in our children, religion will go away in a generation, or at least largely go away. And that’s what I think we have an obligation to do.”

The author of The Daily Beast article notes that people do seem to have a psychological predisposition to religious belief, but just the same, the “bigoted” views of certain religious factions, such as those who oppose gay marriage, can be eliminated much more successfully. In other words, he says tolerantly, we don’t need to get rid of religion entirely, just gut it substantially.

Salon has also weighed in, declaring that “Duck Dynasty bigotry still has an audience—but not for long.” Atheism is no longer the end of a long road of self-doubt, the author crowed, but rather just the beginning—and atheists are even using religious traditions so they can still feel like life has meaning and enjoy paid holidays! Not only are atheists plundering religious traditions for activities that don’t include behavior modification or self-control, but Salon also notes that “Biblical sexuality is getting binned—finally.” This, apparently, is a good thing—regardless of the disease-ridden and corpse-carpeted mountain of evidence that the Sexual Revolution has been a colossal failure.

And then there’s this:

Recovering believers are reclaiming their lives. Most atheists and agnostics are former believers, which means that many carry old psychological baggage from childhood beliefs or some post-childhood cycle of conversion and deconversion. While many former believers slip out of religion unscathed, some do not, and believers in recovery now have a name: reclaimers. A small but growing number of cognitive scientists are exploring the relationship between religion and mental illnesses like depression, anxiety disorders and panic.

Christianity, apparently, is nothing more than something one needs to go to rehabilitation for, a mental disorder requiring extensive detoxification. It is a virus that requires treatment and recovery, rather than a set of beliefs rooted in Truth. Which is precisely why courts are increasingly trying to send those who dissent from the New Moral Order of the Sexual Revolution to rehabilitation and mandatory diversity training. Across Europe and North America, re-education camps (which our public school system and universities often qualify as) and classes are increasingly the government’s solution to the problem of the primitive Christians still in their midst, clinging to their antiquated beliefs with conviction that seems hard to shake.

I was chatting with one of my lawyer friends the other day, and he noted that one of the reasons our culture has shifted so dramatically is that the Left has been willing to fight like demons for every bloody inch of scorched territory, to suppress every mention of the name “God,” to create every newfound sexual right out of thin air, to purge all mention of our Christian heritage from the schools. Christians, on the other hand, have been far more eager to placate, to acquiesce, and to simply get back to the business of working and raising their families. And so, inch by inch, the Sexual Revolutionaries have backed us up into our churches and our Christian schools and our homes. And they are already trying to find ways to force their new “values” on us there as well.

Because if Christianity is in their eyes a pathology, a mental disorder, a temporary insanity, then there can be no religious freedom. They will not be satisfied as long as religious institutions teach and adhere to Christian beliefs, while churches that cling to orthodoxy still preach timeless truths, and while parents still teach their children that the Sexual Revolution was a bloody, horrific mess. So they will try, as they already are, to push harder and longer.

And we are going to have to push back.

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To: Greg or e who wrote (2114)11/13/2014 1:31:45 PM
From: SI Ron (Soup Nazi)
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Hi,

We need a logo for this board, can you please pick out a fitting logo and upload it? If you want me to upload it, please supply the link to the image and I will take care of it.

Thanks
Ron

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To: SI Ron (Soup Nazi) who wrote (2115)11/13/2014 1:49:29 PM
From: Greg or e
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Thanks Ron
I think the picture I chose is suitable, but let me know if you disagree.


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To: Greg or e who wrote (2116)11/13/2014 1:51:27 PM
From: SI Ron (Soup Nazi)
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Maybe something not so grim?

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To: SI Ron (Soup Nazi) who wrote (2117)11/13/2014 2:04:36 PM
From: Greg or e
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LOL! How's this?


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To: Greg or e who wrote (2118)11/13/2014 2:06:13 PM
From: SI Ron (Soup Nazi)
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Thats okay, do you know how to upload it, or do you want me to do it?

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To: SI Ron (Soup Nazi) who wrote (2119)11/13/2014 2:14:44 PM
From: Greg or e
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Already done.
Thanks Ron

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To: Greg or e who wrote (2120)11/13/2014 2:15:52 PM
From: SI Ron (Soup Nazi)
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Thanks!

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From: Greg or e11/14/2014 4:09:29 PM
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One Nation Under Godlessness Michelle Malkin | Nov 14, 2014




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Cheating. Bullying. Cybersexting. Hazing. Molestation. Suicide. Drug abuse. Murder. Scanning the headlines of the latest scandals in America's schools, it's quite clear that the problem is not that there's too much God in students' lives.

The problem is that there isn't nearly enough of Him.

With the malfunction of moral seatbelts and the erosion of moral guardrails, too many kids have turned to a pantheon of false gods, crutches and palliatives. They're obsessed with "Slender Man" and "Vampire Diaries." Alex from Target's hair and Rihanna's tattoos. Overpriced basketball sneakers and underdressed reality stars. Choking games and YouTube games. Gossip and hookups. Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat.

It's all about selfies over self-control, blurred lines over bright lines.

In a metastatic youth culture of soullessness and rootlessness, the idea of high school teens voluntarily using their free time to pray and sing hymns is not just a breath of fresh air. It's salvation.

But leave it to secularists run amok to punish faithful young followers of Christ.

Last week, the Alliance Defending Freedom filed a religious freedom lawsuit against Pine Creek High School here in my adopted hometown of Colorado Springs. Chase Windebank, a senior at the District 20 school, had been convening an informal prayer group for the past three years "in a quiet area to sing Christian religious songs, pray, and to discuss issues of the day from a religious perspective."

Windebank and his friends weren't disrupting classroom time. They shared their Christian faith during an open period earned by high-achieving students. Other kids used the time to play on their phones, eat snacks, get fresh air outside, or schedule meetings for a wide variety of both official and unofficial school clubs.

A Pine Creek choir teacher had given permission to Windebank and his fellow worshipers to meet in an empty music practice room. No complaints ever ensued from other students or faculty. For three years, the group encountered no problems, according to ADF's complaint. But in late September, Windebank was summoned to the assistant principal's office and ordered to stop praying because of "the separation of church and state."

The school singled out the young man of faith's harmless activities and banned members of his group from discussing current issues of the day from a religious perspective during an open period in an unobtrusive meeting place.

As Todd Starnes of Fox News, who broke the story of the lawsuit last week, lamented: "Public school administrators and their lawyers have succeeded in suppressing and oppressing the Christian voice at Pine Creek High School."

It defies common sense that in conservative-leaning Colorado Springs, home to a vibrant faith community and leading evangelical organizations, students would be reprimanded and deprived of basic constitutional rights. As a letter from local parents to the school district decried: "To what benefit does it serve a school to limit the ability for a student to pray with their friends, fellowship with their friends, or discuss daily events from a Christian perspective? It is obvious that School District 20 is taking a freedom FROM religion perspective, not a freedom OF religion perspective."

Think about it: If the high-schoolers gathered in the cafeteria to listen to Billboard magazine's No. 1 pop hit "Habits (Stay High)" -- "You're gone and I gotta stay high/ all the time/ to keep you off my mind" -- school officials would have no issue.

If they lounged in a courtyard to joke about the latest girl-fight videos or off-color joke memes posted on Vine, no problem.

If they discussed the latest "Walking Dead" episode or napped in the library? All good.

But singing "Amazing Grace" and studying scripture? This subversion must be stopped!

How did we get here? And in Colorado Springs, of all places -- not Berkeley or Boulder or Boston? Blame cowardice, ignorance and politically correct bureaucrats pledging allegiance to one nation, under godlessness, without religious liberty, and the occult of extreme secularism for all.

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