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To: JohnM who wrote (206859)11/3/2012 9:00:51 PM
From: Sam
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a growing number of minority voters, now aggressively registered and turning out at the polls with the help of early voting, have transformed the state.

yes, but the percentage of minorities in Nevada is higher than many other states. And they are better organized.

re: Ohio-- Obama still might win, but he will have to win by at least 3%, IMHO, if Husted is to be prevented from stealing it.

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To: JohnM who wrote (206858)11/3/2012 9:06:00 PM
From: Dale Baker
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We went through the no power thing several times and then caved in for the cost of the generator. It's hard to justify for just a few days per year but the emotional toll of those days is very high, as you know, and it's a very long-lived asset for any house if outages are at all common.

As for Ohio - I am sticking to the hope that the actual vote margin will be 4-5% such that all these suppression efforts just get swamped. But we won't know until 72 hours or so from now. FWIW, if Obama loses OH and keeps NH he still gets in if the rest of the firewall holds and he takes CO, or he slips by in VA or FL. Lots of different paths for him and only a couple for Romney.

Ohio polls:

RCP Average10/23 - 11/1----49.346.4Obama +2.9
Rasmussen Reports11/1 - 11/1750 LV4.04949Tie
NBC/WSJ/Marist10/31 - 11/1971 LV3.15145Obama +6
CNN/Opinion Research10/30 - 11/1796 LV3.55047Obama +3
WeAskAmerica10/30 - 11/11649 LV2.65046Obama +4
Ohio Poll/Univ of Cin.10/25 - 10/301182 LV2.94846Obama +2
SurveyUSA10/26 - 10/29603 LV4.14845Obama +3
Gravis Marketing10/27 - 10/27730 LV3.65049Obama +1
PPP (D)10/26 - 10/28718 LV3.75147Obama +4
CBS/NYT/Quinnipiac10/23 - 10/281110 LV3.05045Obama +5
Purple Strategies10/23 - 10/25600 LV4.04644Obama +2
ARG10/23 - 10/25600 LV4.04947Obama +2

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To: T L Comiskey who wrote (206846)11/3/2012 9:08:26 PM
From: koan
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Mitt would have made a great feudal lord. He is a disgusting human being. He dumbed down and demanded obedience from his entire family and he would like to do it to all of we peasants and serfs. Which id exactly how he sees us.

I can't believe Republican workers think Mitt would help them. That takes a level of gullibility I would only expect to find in our simian relatives and I am not sure about them?

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To: Sam who wrote (206861)11/3/2012 9:09:14 PM
From: JohnM
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re: Ohio-- Obama still might win, but he will have to win by at least 3%, IMHO, if Husted is to be prevented from stealing it.

I assumed that it would need to be more given the absentee ballot issues.

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To: Dale Baker who wrote (206862)11/3/2012 9:13:09 PM
From: JohnM
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We went through the no power thing several times and then caved in for the cost of the generator. It's hard to justify for just a few days per year but the emotional toll of those days is very high, as you know, and it's a very long-lived asset for any house if outages are at all common.

I believe, now, that these climate events are the wave of the future and the aging electrical grid in the NE is simply multiple catastrophes waiting to happen. The best we can do as a family is have protection in the form of a fairly serious investment in a backup generator. Our house is natural gas heated and I've been told the best generator solution is a natural gas one.

So I'm going to spend a bit of time talking with folk who installed generators to get enough power into the house to keep the heat, hot water, refrigerator, and basic lighting and computer stuff running.

I also agree that it will add value to the house.

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To: Steve Lokness who wrote (206860)11/3/2012 9:37:05 PM
From: Sam
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That makes no sense at all. Just don't answer the phone. It is pretty easy to tell when it is one of "those" calls. At least, it is if you have called ID.

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From: koan11/3/2012 9:48:54 PM
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There will never be a coming together of right and left. How can people who live their lives according to myth (no facts) and primitive cultural mores and norms defend their philosophy against modern day science and logic. They can't.

And that is why the congress is now two distinct populations and will stay that way. The thinkers and the believers.

It is evident every week on the Bill Maher show when he brings in a couple of right wing intellectuals who then spend the entire show squirming in their seats embarrassed for their party as the liberals shred their antiquated thinking.

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To: epicure who wrote (206805)11/3/2012 10:02:05 PM
From: freelyhovering
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I guess I had never really watched him in concert and his physical movements, timed perfectedly with the backup musicians--particularly Keith Richards, are overstimulating and astounding.

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To: JohnM who wrote (206858)11/3/2012 10:05:44 PM
From: Sam
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p.s. welcome back to the modern world.

Playing with the EC map, if Obama loses both OH and FL, but gets VA, he could still win by taking NV and any other swing state, including NH, as long as he holds onto WI and the other midwestern states that Romney is talking about getting. If he loses FL, OH and VA, he still wins if he gets NV, NH, CO and IA. And of course, if manages to win NC, that would make the road to 270 much easier as well, as it has 15 votes to VA's 13. And while many people have been ceding NC to Romney, it is far from impossible for Obama to still win it.

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To: Steve Lokness who wrote (206847)11/3/2012 10:13:21 PM
From: Ron
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I'm not surprised. I used to see a lot of overworked folks in various personnel offices throw employment survey forms in the trash... some of them from the government. Which is why individual reports/polls/ data bloviations must be taken with a truckload of salt. Usually something closer to the truth emerges over time.
I haven't had a single call this election season. We changed phone numbers earlier and our current phone is unpublished, so now the only calls we get are from people we want to hear from.. imagine that.
We do have cellphones.. which haven't had any survey calls either. Which makes me wonder about that aspect
of polling too.

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