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To: Return to Sender who wrote (5800)6/18/2020 10:54:34 AM
From: The Ox
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With day trading rules, if you have more than 25K in your account, you can leverage many times over that. There should be regulations that prohibit someone with 16K in an account to be trading options with notional values over that amount, especially 50 times more!!

It shouldn't matter if he's taking both side of the trade with a put/call combo, IMO.

RtS,
Your examples are exactly why education is critical before trading stocks. There seems to be a massive the lack of knowledge, where the old expression "you swim with sharks, there's going to be blood spilled" (or some variation of these words) was always understood.

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To: The Ox who wrote (5797)6/18/2020 11:15:32 AM
From: Bocor
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Why anyone would kill themselves over money??

I know more than one experienced trader who has done so with an overallocated positions that blew up. One shot himself in the head over an upside down AMZN earnings trade.

Part of the reason the opiate crisis grew so large was over jobs and money. Take away a person's ability to provide for his family, and the the escape into the Oxy-heroin world is very tempting. Many of them are slow suicides.

Most of the time it is not publicized. If it were my child, the last memory I would want is NOT a Forbes article about his suicide.

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To: Bocor who wrote (5802)6/18/2020 12:31:54 PM
From: Robert O
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A lot of people over history have killed themselves over money, love, etc. humans are emotion driven animals.
Anyway, even the Forbes article does a poor job of explaining the most important aspect of the final leg of his option strategy but at least they are likely onto just what the underlying facts were here:
forbes.com

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To: Robert O who wrote (5803)6/18/2020 12:42:24 PM
From: Bocor
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Whether Forbes got anything right or wrong, yes, it may be a lesson to the hundreds or thousands of other Robinhooders, but his parents had to have a say on whether or not it became a national story.

I just strongly believe that his parents will regret the article and publicity, not to mention any relatives.

He looks like one of those high school kids who may not have been "Captain of the football team", and his memory should not be this.

Enough said. It is incredibly sad, and I'm sure his family will never stop asking what they did wrong.

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From: Sultan6/18/2020 5:39:09 PM
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To: Sultan who wrote (5806)7/7/2020 9:40:14 AM
From: The Ox
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More and more I'm reminded of WCOM, LU, VTSS and many other stocks from 1999-2000.

Buyers beware

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To: The Ox who wrote (5807)7/7/2020 12:08:38 PM
From: robert b furman
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Hi Ox,

Me too.

Here's the next wealth killer - whenever it happens: TSLA!

Bob

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To: robert b furman who wrote (5808)7/7/2020 12:19:27 PM
From: The Ox
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TSLA price to cash flow of 25x. AMZN at 23. NVDA at 38!! Compare to AMAT and LRCX at 13.

FB and AAPL around 15. GOOG at 17 and MSFT at 21.

I understand the concepts of safety in the blue chips and the theory that time will eventually catch up to the valuations of today. Not all of the futures are going to be as smooth for these companies to generate cash as the market seems think.

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To: The Ox who wrote (5809)7/7/2020 1:59:12 PM
From: robert b furman
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Hi Ox,

I would couple FB and Goog as advertising dependent.

I see others coming into compete with that model.

T's xandr is an example of other data harvesters from the telecoms and internet providers, who also have access to metadata. They'll eat away at the lead.

FB and Goog are at the top of their era. Social media and Goog may well be about to come under anti-trust and or censorship bureaucratic review, not to mention EU and other places taxation schemes.

Msft, Aapl, Amat, and Lrcx have business cycles along with a larger moat. A moat that has been cemented over the last brutal competition with in the semi business over the last 20 plus years.

It's always an interesting world when trying to find overvaluation.

You can be wrong for years and in 45 days brilliant (If you don't run out of money first) <smile>

Bob

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