| To: abuelita who wrote (341873) | 10/14/2021 10:42:30 AM | | From: Cautious_Optimist | | | | Robots, like "automation" are the newest threat to jobs and gold to the permanent wealthy caste who own them.
Its an unstoppable force, the answer lies more in how the enhanced wealth (and justice) is distributed.
This is true in all countries in all phases of development.
A lot of it is in how we define basic human rights, and how we tax. In a way that doesn't shoot the goose laying the eggs in technological "progress." Infrastructure and education, nutrition, and a right to basic humane housing for example.
Still so-called Christain pro-lifer neocons+MAGA's still prioritize the INDIVIDUAL with killer guns over well-regulating the amoral market drifts, JUSTICE and community based solutions to social problems. |
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| To: Cautious_Optimist who wrote (341874) | 10/14/2021 12:10:31 PM | | From: abuelita | | | | Other industries thrive in Americans when prices of consumer goods are lower and people can afford to out to eat, or attend cultural events because they didn't go into debt every month due to the retail cost-of-USA-only goods.
on the other hand, those people who lost their jobs will
not be able to afford the above. every job lost also creates
a ripple effect, and not a good one.
I may be engaging in tunnel vision, but I can relate to the
plight of the three people who were written about in the book
as well as the people in Mexico who are struggling to claw
their way out of poverty. |
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| To: abuelita who wrote (341872) | 10/14/2021 12:21:33 PM | | From: Sultan | | | | The Original Tweeter, RS Archer is a UK citizen, married to a French woman, have grownup kid and living in France. Has UK and EU passport etc.
He has been posting pre and post Brexit fiasco from way back and just scratching his head about why and how and what of Brexit.. Has posted a lot of stories about UK citizens who are blaming EU about post Brexit restrictions on residency etc.
A lot of British who voted for Brexit because they blindly believe every lie that was trotted out by the Conservative.. They still do.. No longer Great Britain it seems..
FWIW |
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| To: abuelita who wrote (341872) | 10/14/2021 1:06:50 PM | | From: TigerPaw | | | | | Once decline sets in I wonder if collapse is inevitable. The Roman empire began to fall apart in 200BCE but didn't collapse until 1200BCE, but it slowly lost territory and influence the whole time. It never recovered (The remnants are Armenia). China has gone through cycles of influence, but it's not clear to me if it went through a decline and recovered, or was replaced by a new culture. Teaching about the history of the world beyond North America and Europe was sadly lacking when I was in school. |
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| To: abuelita who wrote (341878) | 10/14/2021 1:26:01 PM | | From: Cautious_Optimist | | | | on the other hand, those people who lost their jobs will not be able to afford the above. every job lost also createsa ripple effect, and not a good one.
I totally see that reality.
That's where the free market human disposal flush must yield to compassionate intelligent government investment for a subsidized transformation of workers. A role for the amoral free market after intelligent (non-corrupt) government intervention. |
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| To: Cautious_Optimist who wrote (341848) | 10/14/2021 1:29:41 PM | | From: Arthur Radley | | | | CO,
I agree with one caveat!
axiomspace.com
My son-in-law is a lead design engineer for Axiom's space laboratory that will be launched into space and orbit with actual astronaut/scientists on board.
Shatner and others can go to Disneyland and Disneyworld and get a much cheaper "joy-ride". |
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| To: TigerPaw who wrote (341881) | 10/14/2021 2:26:26 PM | | From: abuelita | | | | that's a good question.
I have a feeling that prosperity is fleeting for all kinds
of reasons, and decline inevitable, but don't quote me. <g> |
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