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   Strategies & Market TrendsFreddie Mac (FRE) pops the housing bubble


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To: KeepItSimple who wrote (9)6/21/2003 8:29:59 AM
From: John Carragher
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on the other hand some reports say they have done nothing wrong... suits can be filed all day all , it is another thing to proceed through the courts to find damages...

Two accounting firms came up with different explaination as to how the gains should be booked.. There is no enron here.

I jumped in and bought at $50 and $47. looking forward to a nice return when this settles down.

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To: John Carragher who wrote (10)6/24/2003 1:25:03 AM
From: pass pass
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according to Yahoo Finance, FRE has 3400 employees and a market cap of $34 Billion. Ebay has 4000 employees and a market cap of $32 Billion. You think FRE is undervalued?

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To: KeepItSimple who wrote (9)6/25/2003 7:43:34 AM
From: John Carragher
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Impact of Restatement on Financials and Business

As stated above, Freddie Mac continues to expect that the cumulative effect of the restatement will be to materially increase retained earnings for prior periods and materially increase its capital surplus under its regulatory minimum capital requirement as of December 31, 2002. Based on the information currently available, management believes that the expected cumulative effect of the restatement is to increase retained earnings as of December 31, 2002, by a range of $1.5 billion to $4.5 billion. Management cautions, however, that neither the restatement nor re-audit processes are complete and the final determination of the cumulative effect could therefore differ from this range. The expected cumulative increase to retained earnings will likely be driven primarily by gains on certain derivatives and mortgage securities that will be marked to fair value during periods in which interest rates were declining. In addition, the corporation continues to expect that adjustments affecting its income will relate substantially to changes in the timing of income recognition, and, as a result, cumulative increases related to these adjustments will have offsetting effects in future periods. These accounting policy changes will cause greater volatility in Freddie Mac's financial statements for prior periods. Freddie Mac believes there also will be significant volatility in its results in future periods.

Freddie Mac also expects a material increase in the fair value of shareholder equity in its fair value balance sheet as of year-end 2002 versus year-end 2001. This expected increase is subject to completion of the restatement and re-audit processes. Freddie Mac's economic hedges remain effective, as demonstrated by its consistently low levels of portfolio market value sensitivity ("PMVS") and narrow duration gap. The accounting policies that will be implemented in connection with the restatement will not adversely affect Freddie Mac's ability to invest in or securitize mortgages, or prudently manage the risks in its business."

does this get a pop up today... doesn't this bring down the pe with additional retained earnings.

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To: John Carragher who wrote (12)9/2/2003 1:35:34 PM
From: KeepItSimple
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Looks like the big boys are heading for the exists with FRE and FNM- doing their usual pump and dump right at the end of the game. If you're new to investing, and can't figure out what this message means, then maybe you should ask yourself- why would Merril Lynch give free advice to the public? Do you think there is a law that says they have to start buying stocks they tout to the retail investor? Do you think it is illegal for them to be DUMPING stocks after they say "strong buy" to the public investors? Do you think they tell the same thing to their wealthy private investors who let them handle tens of millions of dollars?

:)

Nuclear shorts deployed. These pigs are going down.

biz.yahoo.com

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In the financial sector, Merrill Lynch upgraded the shares of mortgage lending behemoths Fannie Mae (NYSE:FNM - News) and Freddie Mac (NYSE:FRE - News) to a "buy" from a "neutral" on belief that the stocks have bottomed out. Freddie put on 1.1 percent and Fannie added 3.1 percent.

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To: KeepItSimple who wrote (13)9/2/2003 3:57:12 PM
From: John Carragher
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Merrill wasn't only one putting buy on fre... a couple of shows over the weekend mentioned fre as bottomed. and they feel worst of any scandals are over....

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To: John Carragher who wrote (14)9/2/2003 4:37:48 PM
From: KeepItSimple
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how can a stock "bottom" when it is near the top of its all time high range? LOL.

it's a pump and dump, folks. brokerages upgrade stocks if they need to unload shares of their customers. it is the same as it has always been.

the only reason the game keeps working is because the vast majority of the population can't conceive that brokerages would intentionally try to rip them off. they still think that these huge financial corporations issue "buy" recommendations in order to help out the little guy who doesn't pay them anything in commissions.

you'd think after the nasdaq collapsed 85% that most people would get a clue, but apparently not.

fading brokerage "buy" or "sell" recommendations is one of the easiest ways in this market to make huge amounts of profits..

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To: KeepItSimple who wrote (15)9/2/2003 6:19:30 PM
From: John Carragher
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This stock was over $70 now not near all time high? I will be selling at $60 and taking a nice profit.. see ya John

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To: John Carragher who wrote (16)9/3/2003 12:43:48 AM
From: KeepItSimple
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Good luck with that. You'll find out soon enough that owning FRE right now is a huge mistake.

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To: KeepItSimple who wrote (17)9/3/2003 6:59:50 AM
From: John Carragher
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thanks for the heads up..

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To: KeepItSimple who started this subject9/13/2003 6:20:44 PM
From: hdl
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barrons says freddie is sweet- fannie ain't

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