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To: LindyBill who started this subject9/22/2004 6:05:40 PM
From: SiouxPal
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Bumper sticker of the day: If Republicans don't send your jobs overseas, they'll send your kids.
The good news about Bush is... well....he has absolutely quit cocaine, and will never do it again, plus he only eats soft pretzels now.
That's two good things about George.

Sioux

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To: LindyBill who started this subject9/22/2004 6:08:57 PM
From: SiouxPal
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Bush is strong about having 3 debates!
karlandkinggeorge.com

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To: LindyBill who started this subject9/22/2004 6:11:31 PM
From: SiouxPal
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Charge! Bush will be sending your kids to fight the good fight soon!
Kerry: Draft Likely to Return Under Bush
news.yahoo.com.

By MARY DALRYMPLE, Associated Press Writer

WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. - Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry (news - web sites), citing the war in Iraq (news - web sites) and other trouble spots in the world, raised the possibility Wednesday that a military draft could be reinstated if voters re-elect President Bush (news - web sites).

Kerry said he would not bring back the draft and questioned how fairly it was administered in the past.

Answering a question about the draft that had been posed at a forum with voters, Kerry said: "If George Bush (news - web sites) were to be re-elected, given the way he has gone about this war and given his avoidance of responsibility in North Korea (news - web sites) and Iran and other places, is it possible? I can't tell you."

Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld and other Pentagon (news - web sites) officials have been asked numerous times whether they thought a draft would be necessary to maintain force levels in Iraq. They have said consistently that they think it is neither necessary nor desirable, since today's military is built on volunteer service and professionalism.

His voice scratchy and breaking from a cold, Kerry called the president's proposal to give workers partly private Social Security (news - web sites) accounts a windfall for financial companies and one that will cut benefits for senior citizens.

"He's driving seniors right out of the middle class," Kerry said in a battleground state rich with voters keenly watching the candidates talk about two pillars of retirement, Social Security and Medicare.

"I will never privatize Social Security, ever," Kerry said, repeating promises not to raise the retirement age or cut benefits.

Kerry's two-day swing through Florida, which began Tuesday, follows deadly hurricanes that nearly halted polling and politicking in the state. Bush made his third campaign-season trip to Florida this week to assess damage caused by Hurricane Ivan. Kerry has been to the state that decided the 2000 election nine times this year.

Kerry opened the town hall-style meeting about government benefits by repeating his charges that the president is divorced from realities in Iraq and ignoring the manhunt for terrorists in Afghanistan (news - web sites). "Osama bin Forgotten," Kerry said.

Noting that the campaign Tuesday night neared Disney's "fantasy land" in Orlando, Fla., Kerry said: "The difference between George Bush and me is that I drove by it. He lives in it."

Returning to seniors' issues, Kerry said Bush made life harder for seniors with a Medicare drug benefit that doesn't let the government bargain for lower costs.

Kerry also cited a study by Austan Goolsbee, a University of Chicago business professor and informal adviser to the Kerry campaign, to say the president's Social Security proposal will cost seniors.

Bush favors allowing young workers to create voluntary personal savings accounts with some of the money they now pay into the Social Security system, a change he insists will not increase payroll taxes or change benefits for retirees or near retirees.

Goolsbee examined one model that proposes workers set aside a small percentage of their pay in private accounts as a method to adjust Social Security to a rapidly graying population, concluding that fees charged by financial companies could reap them hundreds of billions of dollars and eat 20 percent of the benefits in an account held by a worker making an average salary.

The Bush-Cheney campaign said the study makes assumptions based on policy decisions not yet made and contended that Kerry hasn't explained how he'd meet the challenges posed to Social Security by aging Baby Boomers.

"His record is one of voting for higher taxes on current retirees and ignoring the needs of future retirees," said Bush campaign spokesman Steve Schmidt.

Kerry wants to bolster the retirement program by reducing the deficit and expanding the economy. Some experts say economic growth might be insufficient to cover future benefits because those benefits grow as wages increase.

The Massachusetts senator also wants to improve Medicare by retooling the recently passed prescription drug benefit to let the government negotiate for bulk discounts on drugs.

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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (67202)9/22/2004 6:12:08 PM
From: TimF
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Look up the Altadena incident.

google.com

returns nothing

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To: Neeka who wrote (72634)9/22/2004 6:12:32 PM
From: Bridge Player
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The United States wants to maintain a hard stance against Iran over the "axis of evil" nation's nuclear program, but by doing so Washington runs the risk of inflaming a neighbor of war-wracked Iraq.

That's a risk? LOL! I thought Iran was already pretty "inflamed" against the U.S.

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To: unclewest who wrote (72620)9/22/2004 6:17:21 PM
From: Captain Jack
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<<"As a Senator, Kerry has fought harder for the Vietnamese communists than he ever did against them during his four months as a Swift Boat commander. Kerry's picture hangs in the Vietnamese communist's war museum in Ho Chi Minh City (formerly Saigon), in which he is immortalized in tribute to aiding the communists in winning the war.">> The antics of Kerry caused more casualties than any VC or NVA ever could. It should never be forgotten how he sold the POWs down the river & signed their death warrant so his cousin could makes hundreds of millions,, possibly billions by now. All US dollars provided to NVN thanks to Kerry.

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To: LindyBill who started this subject9/22/2004 6:19:21 PM
From: SiouxPal
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I thought George looked great on that carrier.
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To: SiouxPal who wrote (72654)9/22/2004 6:19:58 PM
From: gamesmistress
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Maybe you and Kerry should read more reliable sources of information. Like the Urban Legends web page:

Draft Fear

Claim: The U.S. military will be reinstating the draft by Spring 2005.

Status: Probably not.

Example: [congress.org, 2004]

...both the Congressional bills were introduced back in January 2003 and have languished in committee ever since with seemingly little support, and the Selective Service maintains that the timing of ads to fill draft board positions was coincidental, part of a process of filling expired board positions that has been underway for several years:

snopes.com

And BTW, the bill in the House were introduced by:

January 7, 2003
Mr. RANGEL (for himself, Mr. MCDERMOTT, Mr. CONYERS, Mr. LEWIS of Georgia, Mr. STARK, and Mr. ABERCROMBIE)

And in the Senate by:
Mr. HOLLINGS introduced the following bill; which was read twice and referred to the Committee on Armed Services

Most if not all of whom are Democrats, loudly complaining that Bush will reinstitute the draft! Isn't that special?

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To: Captain Jack who wrote (72657)9/22/2004 6:22:20 PM
From: Neeka
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Hume/FOX just ran hard on Kerry's two visits to Paris in 70-71.

Good to see.

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To: gamesmistress who wrote (72659)9/22/2004 6:24:20 PM
From: SiouxPal
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George did great at the convention, but the night before....
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