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To: Bald Eagle who wrote (1034)5/9/2003 1:59:41 PM
From: tsigprofit
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bushandcheneysuck.com

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To: Bridge Player who wrote (1024)5/9/2003 2:03:10 PM
From: Thomas M.
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That's a fascinatingly stupid article.

. . . The attacks were not in self-defense, or even in revenge for something America had done . . .

It's truly remarkable that someone can say this and be taken seriously, since the attacks were explicitly tied to American actions.

Full Text: Bin Laden's 'Letter to America'

observer.co.uk

Tom

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To: tsigprofit who wrote (1074)5/9/2003 2:04:38 PM
From: Bald Eagle
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What a stupid web page.

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To: The Philosopher who wrote (1022)5/9/2003 2:06:08 PM
From: Thomas M.
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I was not aware that Bush was a conscientious objector to Vietnam, as Clinton was. Got any links?

Tom

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To: Bald Eagle who wrote (1076)5/9/2003 2:07:11 PM
From: tsigprofit
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I see your posts all over other sites. I think
it's time for you to find another home. This forum
is for moderates and liberals, not conservatives
who want to bash Clinton, and bash all other Democrats.
Goodbye.

t

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To: TigerPaw who wrote (1046)5/9/2003 2:08:35 PM
From: Thomas M.
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And why was Bush Senior in the White House on the morning of 9/11? Many questions, few answers.

Tom

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To: Thomas M. who wrote (1079)5/9/2003 2:09:21 PM
From: tsigprofit
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No More Bushit - T-shirt:
altahemp.com

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To: tsigprofit who wrote (1080)5/9/2003 2:15:27 PM
From: Thomas M.
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Taliban appears to be regrouped and well-funded

A new hierarchy of leaders has emerged across parts of Afghanistan.

By Scott Baldauf and Owais Tohid

KABUL, AFGHANISTAN – As the fiery chief justice of the Taliban's Supreme Court, Abdul Salam shook the world once, proclaiming the right to execute foreign aid workers accused of converting Afghans to Christianity.

Today, not only is Justice Salam back, talking to a foreign reporter for the first time since the Taliban fell a year and a half ago, but he says the Taliban are back as well. Regrouped, rearmed, and well-funded, they are ready to carry on guerrilla war as long as it takes to expel US forces from Afghanistan.

It's what Afghans want, "because during the Taliban times, there was peace and security," says Salam, who retains the long gray beard that marks him as a devout Muslim.

[continued ...]

csmonitor.com

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To: The Philosopher who wrote (1050)5/9/2003 2:41:00 PM
From: tsigprofit
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Enron was George W. Bush's largest political career contributor
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We are dedicated to the public exposure of this one time corporate giant. Enron was George W. Bush's largest political career contributor. No company in America was closer to George W. Bush than Enron and its CEO Kenneth Lay. Bush's nickname for Lay is "Kenny Boy". Kenny Boy's ties to the Bush family run deep. Enron's powerful influence is everywhere they have contributed money to 71 sitting Senators. Since 1989, Enron has made a whopping $5.8 million in campaign donations, 73 percent to Republicans and 27 percent to Democrats.

The Center for Public Integrity a nonpartisan research and investigative reporting organization said Enron, its employees and directors have given $623,000 to Bush from 1993 to November 2001. Campaign finance reform is the only way to stop corporations like Enron from owning those in Washington. Enron the once a mighty energy trader unraveled after it disclosed losses from partnerships kept off its balance sheet. They hid the truth while the executives cashed in the stock and made millions. Enron's bankruptcy and shenanigans left employees holding worthless stocks and retirement funds. Meanwhile top Enron executives earned over 600 million from stock sales in last 4 years. Enron's auditing firm, whose work is under investigation by federal regulators, disclosed that its employees had destroyed a ``significant'' number of documents related to Enron. Justice department investigations are looking at if Enron defrauded investors, including 401(k) plan holders, by concealing vital information about its finances. Lawyers representing Enron shareholders filed a class action suit last month claiming that between Oct. 19, 1998 and Nov. 27, 2001, the 29 current and former company officials traded 17 million shares of Enron stock worth $1.1 billion.
The Bush Administration has several major connections with Enron.

Karl Rove Bush's top political strategist sold between $100,000 and $250,000 worth of Enron stock in 2001 after being accused of conflict of interest.
Thomas White Jr. Secretary of the Army. Was a former top Enron executive, he sold shares worth at least $50 million before Enron's shares plummeted.
Robert B. Zoellick Trade Representative He worked for Enron immediately before joining the administration.
Lawrence B. Lindsey Bush's National Economic Council chief. He was paid $50,000 by Enron in 2000 for consulting work.
John Ashcroft U.S. Attorney General He recused himself from the Justice Dept. probe of Enron because Enron was a major contributor to his failed Senate campaign.
Marc F. Racicot He was recently appointed by Bush to serve as Republican National Committee chairman is a former Enron lobbyist.
Paul O'Neill Treasury Secretary. Lay phoned him to warn of Enron's pending bankruptcy. The White House said no government action followed the call.
Don Evans Commerce Secretary. Lay phoned him before Enron's collapse to warn that Enron might default on its bonds. The White House said no government action followed the call.
Tom Ridge Bush's Director of Homeland Security. In 1997, when Ridge was Pennsylvania's governor, then-Texas governor Bush called on behalf of Lay to help Enron break into Pennsylvania's tightly regulated electricity market.
Curtis Hebert Jr. Former Chairman of the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission He told the New York Times that Lay was using his sway with Bush to influence FERC decisions. Hebert resigned in 2001, and the position was filled with Texan Pat Wood III, a friend of Bush and Lay.
At least 15 high-ranking Bush administration officials owned Enron stock last year.
Enron executives met with the Bush administration just one day before the administration determined not to assist California in its Enron-created energy crisis. The administration did not impose price caps and allowed Enron to further gouge California energy consumers potentially bankrupting California energy providers and endangered the stability of the government of California.

We know that Enron Corp. officials had six meetings with Vice President Dick Cheney and his aides over an eight-month period to discuss the nation's energy policy. Rep. Henry Waxman, D.-Calif., has been pressing Cheney to detail his contacts with the troubled company. "There is a very intimate connection between Enron and the Bush administration. How could they not have known what was happening?" Waxman said. "I think we need to find out what people in the administration knew, many of whom used to work for Enron. We ought to find out whether they ignored warning signs." "The White House had knowledge that Enron was likely to collapse but did nothing to try to protect innocent employees and shareholders who ultimately lost their life savings,'' he said in a statement. ``I am deeply troubled that the White House stood by and let this happen to thousands of families.''

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To: tsigprofit who started this subject5/9/2003 2:47:23 PM
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Trouble in Bush's America
Commentary by Bob Herbert for The New York Times

While our "What, me worry?" president is having a great time with his high approval ratings and his "Top Gun" fantasies, the economy remains in the tank. And the finances of state and local governments are sinking tragically into ever deeper and ever more unforgiving waters.

You want shock and awe? Come to New York City, where jobs are hard to find and the budget (as residents are suddenly realizing) is a backbreaking regimen of service cuts, tax increases and that perennial painkiller, wishful thinking.

The biggest wish, of course, is that the national economy will suddenly turn around and flood the city and state with desperately needed revenues. Meanwhile, the soup kitchens and food pantries are besieged.

"This is the worst situation I've been in," said Alfonso Shynvwelski, an unemployed waiter who stood in a long line of people waiting for food at the Washington Heights Ecumenical Food Pantry on Broadway in upper Manhattan. Mr. Shynvwelski, 36, has worked at a number of upscale restaurants, including the Russian Tea Room, which has closed. He's been unemployed for a year.

"It's the first time in my life I've had to look for food this way," he said.

This lament is being heard more and more often in the city, which has an official jobless rate of nearly 9 percent. The real rate is substantially higher, which means that more than 1 in 10 New Yorkers who would like to work cannot find a job.

Last week Local 46 of the Metallic Lathers Union announced that it would allow 200 people to apply for membership, which would mean a shot at high-paying work. The line of applicants began at Third Avenue and 76th Street and almost circled the block. The earliest arrivals waited in line for three days. They slept on the sidewalk.

In George Bush's America, jobs get erased like chalk marks on a blackboard. More than 2 million have vanished on Mr. Bush's watch. There are now more than 10.2 million unemployed workers in the U.S., including 1.4 million who are not officially counted because they've become discouraged and stopped looking.

There are also 4.8 million men and women who are working part time because they can't find full-time jobs.

John Challenger, the chief executive of the outplacement firm Challenger, Gray & Christmas, offered a cautionary word to the wishful thinkers who insist that prosperity is just around the corner. "The sharp increase in the job cuts last month," Mr. Challenger said, "should serve as a warning that it is premature to conclude that the quick end to the war in Iraq will bring a quick turnaround in the economy and job market."

The high unemployment and sharply reduced social services are having devastating consequences. In some cases people are being driven to destitution.

"This is a really spooky time for us," said John Hoffmann, who runs a food pantry and soup kitchen in the Bronx. He's faced with both a surge in demand and, because of government budget cuts, a threat to his financing.

"These are folks who are new to services like ours," Mr. Hoffmann said of his latest wave of clients. Many of them are working men and women who were struggling to support their families from one paycheck to the next. When workers in that situation are laid off, they have nothing to fall back on.

Nearly a quarter of a million jobs have been lost in New York City in the past two and a half years. Taxes are going up and services are going down — and still that is not enough. Similar scenarios are being played out in city and state governments throughout the country.

California is trying to borrow its way out of a nightmarish crisis. Texas, already near the bottom nationally in social services, is heading further south.

Two forms of help from the federal government are needed. One is direct assistance to local governments to help alleviate the disastrous budget shortfalls. The other is an economic stimulus program that really works, that boosts the economy and creates jobs through investments in some of the nation's real needs, rather than simply transferring trainloads of money to the wealthy in the form of tax cuts.

Mr. Bush has no interest in such remedies. Easing the economic struggles of poor and working families in America is not part of his agenda.

Copyright 2003 The New York Times Company

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