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To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (3906)10/4/2004 7:42:48 AM
From: rrufff
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Do I have this right?

9/11 was a conspiracy amongst (NOT France, at least not in current paranoid conspiracy theories), US, Russia and Israel.

Russia provides Iran with nuclear material so the US and Israel will invade Iran. (sort of LOL - but yeah at least for the purposes of misleading readers of your paranoia)

Iraq was "invaded" to encircle Iran.

Yet - on the other hand - there is no conspiracy to control the world's food supply with cancer causing GMO products.

Hmmmmm - Also there is no conspiracy to change words in quoted passages to place blame and to point fingers at certain religions.

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To: rrufff who wrote (3911)10/4/2004 8:05:48 AM
From: rrufff
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Belgian Sprout - Just so "liberals" here know what kind of bigot crap you post.

Judeofascism's Pope Pat Robertson outjews Ariel Sharon:

What an arsewipe!!

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To: goldsnow who wrote (1939)10/9/2004 6:38:55 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER
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Told you so...

Einstein was just a plagiarist:

Comment le jeune et ambitieux Einstein s'est approprié la Relativité restreinte de Poincaré
de Jean Hladik


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To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (3914)10/9/2004 7:04:05 AM
From: rrufff
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geez - coming from a "cut and paste" champion, that's a rather hypocritical charge. Do you ever get out of your basement in Brussels and breathe in the real world?

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To: rrufff who wrote (3915)10/10/2004 7:26:44 PM
From: rrufff
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In between all the hate US and hate Israel posts, why are there no posts about the Dafur genocide - Sudan. Is it because everyone is afraid of attacking Moslem nations that commit genocide?

There was just a 60 Minute piece on this which was very compelling.

Why is it that the Europeans only talk but nobody is doing anything? US can't do everything alone and then be subject to international criticism. Powell seems to be a lone voice advocating action.

It would take a minimal effort to save perhaps a million people. Why is it that there is such silence?

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To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (3914)10/12/2004 1:25:43 AM
From: BubbaFred
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99% of people don't know and cannot understand that. It takes knowledgeable physicists to know the truth of that statement, which is known for last 30 years but never publicized. It was concurrent studies and Lorentz had the first concept, but Einstein knew how to verbalize the concept in grandiose way for the masses to appreciate it or have some inkling what it's all about, so he got most of the credit (and I agree he should get half the credit).

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To: BubbaFred who wrote (3917)10/12/2004 3:44:54 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER
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The first time I learnt about Einstein's "dirty little secret" was in 1999 when I read the following book by Jean-François Gautier:

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Below is a summary of Gautier's opinion on the Poincaré vs Einstein controversy:

Poincaré contre Einstein ou la "pensée de Dieu"

[J.-F. Gautier] tend à démontrer que depuis l'Antiquité jusqu'à Poincaré (première théorie de la relativité), on sortait de la métaphysique pour entrer dans la physique, alors qu'avec Einstein, premier des "universistes" modernes et ses glorieux successeurs — l'abbé Lemaître, Eddington et, surtout, Hawking —, on sort de la stricte physique pour retourner dans la métaphysique.

L'argument est le suivant: Poincaré et ses prédécesseurs relataient leurs observations au moyen des mathématiques, en faisant parfois appel à l'explication métaphysique quand ils n'en voyaient pas d'autre: "Copernic remettait le soin de l'ordre du monde entre les mains de Dieu. Kepler, lui aussi, attribuait à "un certain dessein de Dieu" la conservation de la forme elliptique des orbites planétaires dont la raison profonde échappait à l'entendement. Galilée lui-même conservait à Dieu son rôle de créateur et de berger du système cosmique" (p. 31).

Laplace, qui venait d'offrir à Napoléon son Exposition du système du monde, se vit adresser cette question: "Je n'ai vu nulle part mention dans votre ouvrage du Créateur de toutes ces choses", et répondit: "C'est simplement, Sire, que je n'ai jamais eu besoin de cette hypothèse" (p. 38). Ainsi, Dieu est une hypothèse qu'il est parfois fortement conseillé d'envisager si l'on en croit les déboires de Galilée, mais ni l'univers ni son créateur ne sont jamais postulés a priori. Cette physique-là ne cherche pas à démontrer l'existence de ceux-ci, mais à décrire des observations: elle se situe dans l'astronomie scientifique.

"Je veux comprendre comment Dieu créa le monde. Je ne suis pas intéressé par tel ou tel phénomène. Je veux pénétrer le fond de Sa pensée. Le reste n'est que détail" confiait Einstein (cité p. 200). Avec lui, nous dit J.-F. Gautier, la physique "n'est plus un outil pour comprendre, elle devient une rhétorique pour faire être" (p. 74). Or, fait remarquer l'auteur, "l'Univers, par définition, est Tout; il n'a donc pas d'extériorité" (p. 95); "l'objet Univers est à lui-même son propre référentiel" (p. 96): il ne peut donc être ni observé, ni mesuré. "Les choix cosmologiques d'Einstein sur ce point capital, poursuit-il, s'éclairent moins par les contraintes ou les observations de la physique que par la métaphysique de Spinoza" (p. 74). Il s'agit là d'une entreprise qui sort d'une démarche scientifique pour entrer dans une mystique scientiste.

J.-F. Gautier expose que ce qu'Einstein appelait lui-même la "religiosité cosmique" intervient dans la pensée du physicien avant le commencement de son travail de démonstration: "Ce n'est pas un mythe de la physique, mais un mythe importé dans la physique" (p. 199). Hawking, lui, va encore plus loin lorsqu'il prétend qu'une fois sa théorie "unitaire" achevée — théorie qui tend à réconcilier celles de la relativité (mécanique relativiste de l'infiniment grand) et des quantas (mécanique quantique de l'infiniment petit), dont personne n'a su donner jusqu'ici un modèle unifié — "nous connaîtrons la pensée de Dieu" (cité p. 200).

Le lecteur sera sans doute tenté de penser que ces attitudes démiurgiques ne sont pas très modestes; mais pourquoi s'offusquer ? Cela va-t-il révolutionner le cours des planètes ? Oui, répond J.-F. Gautier.
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From: Victor Lazlo11/27/2004 10:28:03 PM
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Folow the $$$$$$$. The son of UN head Kofi Anannan was being paid handsomely by Cotecna, Swiss co, for several years ending February 2004, with money from the Iraq food for oil program. Cotecna had a lucrative contract under the program.

It is not clear what services the son of UN head Kofi Anannan performed in return for all this money.

COTECNA INSPECTION S.A. was incorporated in 1974 in Fribourg and 1975 in Geneva, Switzerland. Initially, COTECNA specialised in the inspection of a variety of goods on behalf of private traders and governmental entities involved in international trade.

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From: Victor Lazlo11/27/2004 10:29:43 PM
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Saddam had 2100 bank accts in 41 countries in order to launder and hide the food for oil money. The UN was totally in the bag on it.. all the UN flunkies getting paid off, including the corrupt socialist, Kofi Anananaan.

Some of these accounts were only used for one transaction, then abandoned.

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From: Victor Lazlo11/27/2004 10:31:58 PM
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The Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations now believes that Hussein and his cronies pocketed in excess of $21 billion, more than twice the $10 billion reported earlier, from the Oil-For-Food program. And it will probably get even larger.

In addition, the Senate has requested over 50 Oil-For-Food documents and registers from the United Nations, and UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan is stonewalling. So far, he has refused to turn over the documents. The good news is, this will likely lead to the resignation of Annan before this is over.

The trouble is, much of the billions that Hussein skimmed from the program is unaccounted for. The fear is that some of that money may now be in the hands of terrorists and insurgents that are battling our troops in Iraq. Given the scope of this unfolding scandal, we revisit the topic this week, including excerpts from my May 25 issue in which I explained how the scandal worked.

Former Fed Chairman Paul Volker is now a hired gun for Kofi Ananan and the rogues gally that is the UN. Volker is advising them to stonewall the Senate.

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