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To: Raymond Duray who wrote (1927)9/14/2002 6:23:38 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER
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Footnote to my post #1926:
Message 16365852

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To: blind alley racer who wrote (1917)9/14/2002 6:35:50 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER
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Prince describes Arab mistrust of U.S. on Iraq
Neil MacFarquhar The New York Times
Saturday, September 14, 2002

JIDDA
The Arab world has been wary about the campaign against terrorism ever since President George W. Bush first described it as a crusade, his offhand remark conjuring up ghosts of the Middle Ages. Those ghosts were never completely laid to rest, and now, with talk of a war in Iraq, the Arab world believes the fight against terror may ultimately breed more violence, not less.

That dread is rooted in the perception that the entire effort to fight terrorism was shanghaied by Israel to justify its occupation of Palestinian land.

"We think that the Zionist movement is using this opportunity to make Islam and the Arabs the enemy of the West and this is entirely wrong," said Prince Khalid al Faisal al Saud of Saudi Arabia. "It is very frustrating to see your people killed every day; you see them on television, you see women and children being bombed by American airplanes, by American helicopters, American tanks and American money. This is disturbing."

"This makes this region the most explosive region in the world because of the feeling of frustration," he added.
[snip]

iht.com

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To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (1924)9/14/2002 2:13:35 PM
From: lorne
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gussy. You said..." LOL... and how would Mr Ben-Eliezer qualify the blow inflicted upon Yithzak Rabin?"....

It does not surprise me that you would think that a very sad incident like that would be a reason for laughter.

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To: lorne who wrote (1932)9/14/2002 4:08:00 PM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER
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Re: It does not surprise me that you would think that a very sad incident like that would be a reason for laughter.

YOUR FLY'S OPEN!! ROFL...

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To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (1933)9/14/2002 4:21:46 PM
From: lorne
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gussy. You said..." YOUR FLY'S OPEN!! ROFL"...

Look at what you just posted. study it and ask yourself did I really say that on a public forum and then laugh at it. gus,gus,gus seek help you are in bad shape now stay away from pointy objects and for god's sake don't drive.

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To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (1931)9/15/2002 2:35:26 PM
From: blind alley racer
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Gus,

Do not forget to include the Russians who are now threatening invasion of Georgia, under the cover of "defending themselves".

America has some pretty big coattails to hang on to.

Evidently, Isra'El must sense that what we Americans did to the native population here is not working as a credible defense for their colonialism.

len

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To: blind alley racer who wrote (1935)9/15/2002 3:27:11 PM
From: goldsnow
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Evidently, Isra'El must sense that what we Americans did to the native population here is not working as a credible defense for their colonialism>>>>

Evidently defense is working just fine and is very credible

reuters.com

Yaalon said Israel's armed forces were "very well prepared" to withstand an Iraqi attack and the Israeli home-front defenses were the most advanced in the world

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To: goldsnow who wrote (1936)9/15/2002 4:22:43 PM
From: blind alley racer
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History is long...

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To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (1933)9/15/2002 4:49:32 PM
From: blind alley racer
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I was remiss in not mentioning that Vincente Fox has suspended the agreements as defined in the Rio Treaty of 1947.

In part:

"That Resolution VIII of the Inter-American Conference on Problems of War and Peace, which met in Mexico City, recommended the conclusion of a treaty to prevent and repeal threats and acts of aggression against any of the countries of America;

That the High Contracting Parties reiterate their will to remain united in an inter-American system consistent with the purposes and principles of the United Nations, and reaffirm the existence of the agreement which they have concluded concerning those matters relating to the maintenance of international peace and security which are appropriate for regional action;

That the High Contracting Parties reaffirm their adherence to the principles of inter-American solidarity and cooperation, and especially to those set forth in the preamble and declarations of the Act of Chapultepec, all of which should be understood to be accepted as standards of their mutual relations and as the juridical basis of the Inter-American System;

That the American States propose, in order to improve the procedures for the pacific settlement of their controversies, to conclude the treaty concerning the "Inter-American Peace System" envisaged in Resolutions IX and XXXIX of the Inter-American Conference on Problems of War and Peace,

That the obligation of mutual assistance and common defense of the American Republics is essentially related to their democratic ideals and to their will to cooperate permanently in the fulfillment of the principles and purposes of a policy of peace;

That the American regional community affirms as a manifest truth that juridical organization is a necessary prerequisite of security and peace, and that peace is founded on justice and moral order and, consequently, on the international recognition and protection of human rights and freedoms, on the indispensable well-being of the people, and on the effectiveness of democracy for the international realization of justice and security,

Have resolved, in conformity with the objectives stated above, to conclude the following Treaty, in order to assure peace, through adequate means, to provide for effective reciprocal assistance to meet armed attacks against any American State, and in order to deal with threats of aggression against any of them."

yale.edu

What Fox is saying to Bush is "if you wish to antagonize others and go off half-cocked starting wars and making enemies who may retaliate against you, don't expect Mexicans to come to your aid."

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To: blind alley racer who wrote (1937)9/15/2002 5:57:33 PM
From: goldsnow
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Say 6000 years long enough?

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