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To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (1931)9/15/2002 2:35:26 PM
From: swiveled-eyed loon
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Gus,

Do not forget to include the Russians who are now threatening invasion of Georgia, under the cover of "defending themselves".

America has some pretty big coattails to hang on to.

Evidently, Isra'El must sense that what we Americans did to the native population here is not working as a credible defense for their colonialism.

len

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To: swiveled-eyed loon who wrote (1935)9/15/2002 3:27:11 PM
From: goldsnow
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Evidently, Isra'El must sense that what we Americans did to the native population here is not working as a credible defense for their colonialism>>>>

Evidently defense is working just fine and is very credible

reuters.com

Yaalon said Israel's armed forces were "very well prepared" to withstand an Iraqi attack and the Israeli home-front defenses were the most advanced in the world

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To: goldsnow who wrote (1936)9/15/2002 4:22:43 PM
From: swiveled-eyed loon
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History is long...

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To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (1933)9/15/2002 4:49:32 PM
From: swiveled-eyed loon
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I was remiss in not mentioning that Vincente Fox has suspended the agreements as defined in the Rio Treaty of 1947.

In part:

"That Resolution VIII of the Inter-American Conference on Problems of War and Peace, which met in Mexico City, recommended the conclusion of a treaty to prevent and repeal threats and acts of aggression against any of the countries of America;

That the High Contracting Parties reiterate their will to remain united in an inter-American system consistent with the purposes and principles of the United Nations, and reaffirm the existence of the agreement which they have concluded concerning those matters relating to the maintenance of international peace and security which are appropriate for regional action;

That the High Contracting Parties reaffirm their adherence to the principles of inter-American solidarity and cooperation, and especially to those set forth in the preamble and declarations of the Act of Chapultepec, all of which should be understood to be accepted as standards of their mutual relations and as the juridical basis of the Inter-American System;

That the American States propose, in order to improve the procedures for the pacific settlement of their controversies, to conclude the treaty concerning the "Inter-American Peace System" envisaged in Resolutions IX and XXXIX of the Inter-American Conference on Problems of War and Peace,

That the obligation of mutual assistance and common defense of the American Republics is essentially related to their democratic ideals and to their will to cooperate permanently in the fulfillment of the principles and purposes of a policy of peace;

That the American regional community affirms as a manifest truth that juridical organization is a necessary prerequisite of security and peace, and that peace is founded on justice and moral order and, consequently, on the international recognition and protection of human rights and freedoms, on the indispensable well-being of the people, and on the effectiveness of democracy for the international realization of justice and security,

Have resolved, in conformity with the objectives stated above, to conclude the following Treaty, in order to assure peace, through adequate means, to provide for effective reciprocal assistance to meet armed attacks against any American State, and in order to deal with threats of aggression against any of them."

yale.edu

What Fox is saying to Bush is "if you wish to antagonize others and go off half-cocked starting wars and making enemies who may retaliate against you, don't expect Mexicans to come to your aid."

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To: swiveled-eyed loon who wrote (1937)9/15/2002 5:57:33 PM
From: goldsnow
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Say 6000 years long enough?

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To: goldsnow who wrote (1939)9/15/2002 5:58:19 PM
From: swiveled-eyed loon
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Humanity is older than that.

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To: swiveled-eyed loon who wrote (1940)9/15/2002 6:00:50 PM
From: goldsnow
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Humanity is older than that. >>>

About 1 mln year-old (earth is about 4 bln years)

USA?

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To: goldsnow who wrote (1941)9/15/2002 6:19:56 PM
From: swiveled-eyed loon
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That sounds about right. len

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To: swiveled-eyed loon who wrote (1938)9/15/2002 9:06:08 PM
From: Raymond Duray
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Thanks for the Plain English translation. <gg>

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To: swiveled-eyed loon who wrote (1938)9/16/2002 4:27:23 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER
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Re: What Fox is saying to Bush is "if you wish to antagonize others and go off half-cocked starting wars and making enemies who may retaliate against you, don't expect Mexicans to come to your aid."

Well, I guess Prez Fox's main concern is the flow of Mexican immigrants across the Rio Grande... With US immigration officials paranoid about aliens travelling to the US, the Mexican gov is anxious about any backlash on its migrant workforce. Catholic Mexicans have got nothing to do with Islamic fanaticism. So, the bottom line is that Mexico will not tighten its surveillance of its border with the US. Besides, do you really think that the US ever expected anything from Mexican intelligence re: 911? After all, Mexico is not part of the UKUSA intelligence alliance....

Gus

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