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To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (1897)9/13/2002 2:31:46 PM
From: blind alley racer
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The Canadian farmers are now knocking on Ottawa's doors for subsidies to counteract GW Bush's give away to our corporate and large wealthy farmers.

Will he roll that back as he has with steel?

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To: Yaacov who wrote (1906)9/13/2002 2:34:04 PM
From: blind alley racer
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My take is that they were "goofing" on the woman. Now they will be delayed on their trip. I bet she did not have a witness either.

YOAFL

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To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (1901)9/13/2002 3:26:35 PM
From: Andy Thomas
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well... i never used the word floozie... you did

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To: blind alley racer who wrote (1908)9/13/2002 4:50:30 PM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER
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Re: Who are the parties in the region pushing others to arm themselves with nukes?

Well, your wording is a little bit captious... I'd prefer the following, simpler turn:

Who are the industrialized countries eager to arm Iran and Iraq with nukes?

The answer to that question is much easier: Russia, France and Germany. The latter doesn't have its own nuclear arsenal but Germany (like Japan) has the brains to build nukes, rockets, chemical weapons, etc.

Now, don't get me wrong about that issue: I don't intimate that world peace would be jeopardized if Iraq or Iran laid their hands on nuclear weapons. I don't buy the neocolonial propaganda that casts Arabs as irresponsible barbarians and Europeans/Americans as peaceful, responsible philanthropists...

Nuclear weapons/capabilities in the hands of Iraq or Iran would dramatically alter the balance of power with Israel. Of course, the Arab world doesn't have any interest in annihilating Israel with nukes --that's the cheap horror story that the Judeofascists have sold us for the past 40 years. No, again, the "Arab bomb" will force Israel to leave the Palestinians alone and... GIVE UP EAST JERUSALEM.
It's that simple.

Gus

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To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (1900)9/13/2002 4:55:47 PM
From: Raymond Duray
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Hi Gus,

Re: That's why the US --reluctantly-- had to enter the game.

This interview with Brzezinski indicates that there was absolutely no reluctance on the part of the U.S. government to engage in surrpetitious interventionist policies in Central Asia:

fair.org

[[Specifically, take a look at the interview transcript. ]]

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To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (1913)9/13/2002 5:05:50 PM
From: blind alley racer
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Yes, that is why the push is to deny those countries nukes OR to make any attempt by the nuclear powers to dismantle theirs.

Interesting take on Germany and how restrictions after WW II keep them from possessing any nukes. They and Japan surely have the capabilities to build one or to have one built.

len

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To: blind alley racer who wrote (1910)9/13/2002 5:06:16 PM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER
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Re: Will he roll that back as he has with steel?

If it's necessary to win over France to sign a UN Security Council draft to bomb Iraq, why not? <g>

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To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (1916)9/13/2002 5:08:36 PM
From: blind alley racer
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In other words, everything is negotiable?

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To: Andy Thomas who wrote (1912)9/13/2002 5:12:05 PM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER
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Re: well... i never used the word floozie... you did

Huh?!? Yeah, I used the "word" and you used the "floozie".

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To: Raymond Duray who wrote (1914)9/13/2002 5:18:01 PM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER
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C'mon, that guy Brzezinski's been out of the loop for the past 22 years!!! I mean, it's like asking Jimmy Carter about 911... But I'll read the article.

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