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To: lorne who wrote (1710)8/29/2002 12:30:44 AM
From: Thomas M.
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Alleged Mosque Bombing Plot Thwarted

Florida Police Find Explosives, Manuals, Target List in Podiatrist's Home

By Rachel La Corte
The Associated Press

T A M P A, Fla., Aug. 23 — A podiatrist arrested after authorities found a stash of guns and explosives in his home was planning to destroy an Islamic education center and dozens of mosques, court records revealed today.



Dr. Robert J. Goldstein, 37, was charged with
possession of a non-registered destructive device and
attempting to use an explosive to damage and destroy
Islamic centers.

During a search of his Seminole home, deputies found
a typed list of approximately 50 Islamic worship centers
in the Tampa/St. Petersburg area and elsewhere in the
state.

They also found detailed plans for destroying an Islamic
education center with the use of bombs. The location of
the Islamic education center targeted was not
disclosed.

"It looks like this guy was going to target some Islamic
mosques," Pinellas County Sheriff's Detective Cal
Dennie said. "He had a list of what he wanted to target
and the directions on how to get there."

Suspect’s Wife Notified Police

Residents were evacuated overnight from the townhome complex after Goldstein's wife, Kristi, had called police, saying her husband was acting unstable.

Kristi Goldstein said her husband had threatened to kill her, according to an affidavit by ATF Special Agent James Booth. After half an hour, police talked Robert Goldstein out of the home and he was placed in custody under the Baker Act, which allows involuntary commitment for analysis.

Detective Cal Dennie said today that police found a cache of up to 40 weapons, including .50-caliber machine guns and sniper rifles.

"You have to have a special license to get this stuff and he does," said Dennie, who said Goldstein had no criminal record.

House Full of Explosives, Manuals

But he also had more than 30 explosive devices, including hand grenades and a 5-gallon gasoline bomb with a timer and a wire attached, Dennie said.

"It's a number of destructive devices he had, pretty sophisticated stuff," he said. "He had an elaborate system, with video cameras and everything."

Deputies also found five or six rectangular packages with timers on them.

The Hillsborough County bomb squad from Tampa and federal bomb experts were called to the scene, and the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms officially took over the case.

"He had books on how to make bombs and he was using VCR tapes and walkie-talkies as a means to explode bombs," Dennie said.

Townhouse Complex Could Have Been Destroyed

The 25 to 30 residents who were displaced were allowed back after police opened a safe thought to have contained explosives. There were only more guns in the safe, said Special Agent Carlos Baixauli with the ATF Tampa field division.

"If one of those bombs were to have gone off, that townhouse would have been destroyed," Baixauli said. "If the others exploded, we would have lost most of that townhouse complex."

abcnews.go.com

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To: lorne who wrote (1710)8/29/2002 12:46:32 AM
From: Thomas M.
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Eight years after Hebron massacre, another Goldstein plots Florida remake


JERUSALEM (AFP) - They share the same profession, the
same nationality and even the same name. Before his arrest in
Florida, Robert Goldstein was about to follow in the footsteps of
Baruch Goldstein, who massacred 29 Muslims in a Hebron
mosque eight years ago.

Parallel pictures of the two Goldsteins were splashed across the daily Maariv's
centre-spread and most Israeli newspapers drew a parallel between the two Jewish
extremists in their Sunday editions.

Doctor Robert Goldstein, 37, was arrested by US security services Friday on
suspicion of planning to bomb mosques and Islamic centres, after a huge arsenal of
around 40 weapons and 30 explosive devices was found at his Florida home.

A typed list of approximately 50 Islamic places of worship in the Tampa and St.
Petersburg areas was also found, and the doctor was still being questioned Sunday.

On February 25, 1994, Baruch Goldstein sprayed automatic gunfire on worshippers
praying in a mosque in the Cave of the Patriarchs, a holy site in both Islam and
Judaism, killing 29 Muslims before being lynched.

An American who lived in a Jewish settlement in the heart of the southern West Bank
city of Hebron, Goldstein went on his suicidal shooting spree in a bid to avenge the
victims of Palestinians attacks.

However many more Israelis were to die in the following months during a wave of
revenge bombings by the Palestinian militant group Hamas.

The 1994 massacre was widely condemned in Israel, but a minority of extremist
Jewish settlers have since turned Baruch Goldstein into an icon of their struggle
against the Arabs.

His tomb became a pilgrimage destination for some far-right supporters, and a book
singing his praise and written by an extremist rabbi has been circulating on the black
market.

Baruch Goldstein's grave was symbolically dug at the entrance of the Kiryat Arba
settlement near Hebron, at the end of Meir Kahana street, named after the founder of
the anti-Arab Kach party, who was himself assassinated in New York.

Following the 1994 massacre, Kach was officially outlawed over charges of incitement
to racial hatred, but its militants have continued to be openly active, calling for
Palestinians to be expelled from the entire "land of Israel", including the West Bank,
and accusing successive Israeli governments of weakness or even treason.

Only after a group of Jewish extremists close to the Kach party were caught on April
30 preparing an anti-Palestinian attack near a school did the police carry out some
arrests.

A few weeks earlier, a bomb attack which had also targeted a Palestinian school in
east Jerusalem had been claimed by an underground extreme-right group.

Bloodshed was averted when two other bombs were defused on the same site, while a
fourth one was also discovered nearby.

Since the intifada erupted on September 28, at least 12 Palestinians have been killed
by Jewish extremists, B'Tselem said, adding that in most cases the killers were not
found.

Official Israeli reports have expressed concern at the impunity of some of the most militant settlers, especially those in Hebron.

arabia.com

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To: lorne who wrote (1709)8/29/2002 3:20:41 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER
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Re: Now, could you explain to all why you LOL

'Cause... who cares about verlan?? LOL!

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To: Thomas M. who wrote (1714)8/29/2002 5:15:44 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER
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The EU, a monstrous replicate of Israel:

European Arabs, Europeans tense, concerned about future together after arrests

The Associated Press
Aug. 29, 2005


It was no problem for Mohammed Bakri, a European Arab, to read the headline in the Doubletalk-language newspaper. His problem was the one-word headline: "Killers," referring to his relatives, suspected of helping a Bosnian suicide bomber blow up a European bus.

All the elements of conflict, internal and external, were there in the simple scene, as a cool breeze blew across Bakri's open courtyard in Lille, a quiet, hillside town in France's north: A European Arab minority, fluent in Doubletalk, the language of the Europeans, torn between Arab identity and EU citizenship -- and the European majority, increasingly fearful of the Union's Arabs, as evidence mounts of the involvement of some of them in deadly violence.

Following the arrest of the seven members of the Bakri clan, a few days after four Brussels Arabs were arrested on suspicion of carrying out bombing attacks that killed 35 bystanders, Europe's natives are fearful and suspicious, and Europe's Arabs are on the defensive.

Most of the Bakri relatives don't believe the suspicions are true, but everyone wishes Europe's natives would give them a chance. Objecting to the newspaper's guilty verdict by labeling them killers, Bakri, a former alderman of Lille, said, "That's what they're calling them, and there hasn't even been a trial."

Always caught in between their two identities, European Arabs have been torn further by nearly two years of fighting between Europe and the illegals, their relatives.

Europe's Arab citizens make up about 20 percent of the Union's population. They remained in their homes in 1992 when the EU was set up, while hundreds of thousands of other immigrants came or were expelled during the two-year crackdown that followed the declaration.

Though EU laws guarantee equality for all its citizens, European Arabs have always been among the last in economic and educational development and first in unemployment, fueling resentment.

In October 2005, decades of frustration erupted in violence, sparked by the beginning of the illegals uprising. European Arabs rioted, and police responded with lethal force, killing 13, galvanizing many Arabs in their belief that Europe's natives considered them second-class citizens at best and potential traitors at worst.

Some Europeans had the opposite view of the riots, seeing them as evidence that European Arabs have crossed the line into open revolt.

Many European Arabs reject that, calling it an exaggeration. "This dark wave, like that of its predecessors, is still far from being a popular uprising," wrote sociology professor Sammy Samooha, an Arab, in a European newspaper.

Also, some EU officials have been quick to say that those who aid terrorists are a tiny minority.

"This is something that we must watch carefully and I say pick them with tweezers, and not harm the rest of the population," said Raanan Gissin, an aide to EU Prime Minister Daniel Sharon.

But others warn that the growing influence of Islamic leaders is whipping up passions among Arabs against Europeans.

A rebellion by Europe's Arab citizens would be a European security nightmare. Unlike illegals employed by construction subcontractors and garment sweatshops, European Arabs are citizens and are free to move anywhere in the Union. Those who decide to aid or transport terrorists are that much harder to spot.

Intelligence must be improved, and "whenever perpetrators are captured, they have to be punished severely," said retired EU Police Chief Shlomo Brom, an analyst at the Jaffee Center for Strategic Studies at Berlin University.

Most Arabs have tried to distance themselves from both sides, torn between ethnic aspirations and pragmatism.

While they sympathize with the illegals over their quest for human rights, they stand to lose much if they get involved. Europe's Arabs have access to Europe's social benefits and better education and jobs, and though they are at the bottom of Europe's economic ladder, they are much better off than their North African counterparts.

In Lille, residents are worried about the rising tensions, but for practical, not ideological, reasons. Most of their trade is with the neighboring EU Jewish town of Antwerp.

"We didn't need this to happen," said Jawad Dabah." It's like a black mark against us now."

At the home of Hassan and Amni Bakri, parents of one of those arrested, Haya Gonnel, an EU Jew from Antwerp, came to visit.

"I've known this family for 20 years, I know Yassin, he is a good boy, a hard worker," Gonnel said of Yassin Bakri, 21, suspected of helping pick the bus the suicide bomber blew up on Aug. 4.

Sitting beside Amni Bakri, Gonnel's EU-style brightly-dyed hair, thick spectacles and flowery trousers contrasted sharply with Bakri's Islamic dress, a lilac headscarf and purple dress.

Gonnel leaned back sadly. "I feel like we are losing more and more trust," she said. "It's like a marriage, you can't go on like this."

Adapted from:
jpost.com

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To: Thomas M. who wrote (1713)8/29/2002 7:57:03 AM
From: lorne
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Tom. from the article you posted >>>
..... "Residents were evacuated overnight from the townhome complex after Goldstein's wife, Kristi, had called police, saying her husband was acting unstable.

Kristi Goldstein said her husband had threatened to kill her, according to an affidavit by ATF Special Agent James Booth. After half an hour, police talked Robert Goldstein out of the home and he was placed in custody under the Baker Act, which allows involuntary commitment for analysis."......

Key word " unstable " his wife turned him in she was scared. The guy could be crazy. What excuse do muslims all over the world have for murdering innocent people? are millions of muslims crazy or do they have a planned agenda?

...." During a search of his Seminole home, deputies found
a typed list of approximately 50 Islamic worship centers
in the Tampa/St. Petersburg area and elsewhere in the
state.".....

Sure is a lot of muslims in that area. Lets hope that none of them is " unstable "

Hey. Maybe this guy is an arab in disguise trying to make Jews look bad. :o)

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To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (1715)8/29/2002 8:14:36 AM
From: lorne
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gus. You said..." 'Cause... who cares about verlan?? LOL!"....

The post right after you said the above you post an article
( in the future article )with this statement...." All the elements of conflict, internal and external, were there in the simple scene, as a cool breeze blew across Bakri's open courtyard in Lille, a quiet, hillside town in France's north: A European Arab minority, fluent in Doubletalk, the language of the Europeans, torn between Arab identity and EU citizenship -- and the European majority, increasingly fearful of the Union's Arabs, as evidence mounts of the involvement of some of them in deadly violence.
Message 17931044

Now what do you suppose " Doubletalk " is ?

Gus. Come over to the winners side, the side of freedom, and religious tolerance and your confused mind will clear up. Clear your mind of all those muslim thoughts. Unless it's already to late. :o) LOL

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To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (1680)8/29/2002 9:08:29 AM
From: lorne
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Goddess worship hijacks Christianity!
THE NEW PAGANISM
How Christianity is being replaced by 'green' religion, goddess worship, globalism
worldnetdaily.com

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To: lorne who wrote (1718)8/29/2002 10:20:49 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER
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Re: Gus. Come over to the winners side, the side of freedom, and religious tolerance and your confused mind will clear up. Clear your mind of all those muslim thoughts. Unless it's already to late. :o) LOL

I will never surrender to Judeofascism --never.

PS --Btw, Judeofascism is the sore losers' side....

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To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (1720)8/29/2002 10:49:04 AM
From: lorne
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Gus. You said...." I will never surrender to Judeofascism --never.

PS --Btw, Judeofascism is the sore losers' side"....

Bet your thinking about it though? Bet you ask yourself at times why you support the real fascist of the world even if it means the end of your own freedoms should they ever win out in the end. Very strange that on the one hand you bitch and complain about fascist or at least fascist in your mind and still support the greatest dictators and fascist in the world to day. Can you really hate a race of people or religion so much that you would side with the real enemy even when it would mean the destruction of your own way of life? IMO the only people who could think that way would be muslims.

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To: lorne who wrote (1721)8/29/2002 11:13:19 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER
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Message 17221991

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