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To: 249443 who started this subject4/23/2003 1:51:54 AM
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AB, DRF, 4/21/03:

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To: 249443 who started this subject4/27/2003 11:18:10 PM
From: Julius Wong
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Ins and Outs of 2003 Kentucky Derby

04/27/2003 15:50:12 EST

Just last weekend, D. Wayne Lukas was still looking for a horse to enter in Saturday's Kentucky Derby.

Now he has two - Scrimshaw and Ten Cents a Shine.

"I never felt any pressure. I'm supposed to get here," said Lukas, back at the Derby for the 22nd time in the past 23 years. "I'm not surprised. We've stayed pretty positive."

So has Bob Baffert, the winning trainer in three of the past six Derbies. While an injury to 2-year-old champion Vindication knocked his best prospect off the trail in February, Baffert will still have two Derby starters - Indian Express and Kafwain. He could have a third in Senor Swinger, but the colt is likely to start in a grass race Friday at Churchill Downs.

"Losing Vindication was very tough - he was my star," said Baffert, who won the Derby and Preakness with Silver Charm in 1997, Real Quiet in 1998 and War Emblem in 2002. "But you can't look back. If the Bulls lost Michael Jordan, they'd go on and keep playing. You deal with it and hope you get there."

Bobby Frankel is here, too, with perhaps the strongest pair of 3-year-olds since Calumet Farms sent out Citation and Coaltown to a 1-2 finish in the 1948 Derby. The Hall of Fame trainer looking for his first Derby win will saddle expected favorite Empire Maker, winner of the Florida Derby and Wood Memorial, and Peace Rules, winner of the Louisiana Derby and Blue Grass Stakes.

"I think we're in really good shape," said Frankel after both colts put in final workouts Sunday morning.

Even though three of the most well-known trainers are Derby bound, a likely field of up to 19 will be missing some familiar names - both equine and human.

Besides Vindication, other Derby contenders knocked off the trail due to injury include Badge of Silver, the filly Composure, Man Among Men, Sky Mesa and Toccet.

On the trainers side, two-time Derby winner Nick Zito will miss the race for the second year in a row. Zito ranks eighth on the Derby starters list with 12 - two behind Baffert (14 after Saturday) and 29 behind all-time leader Lukas (41 after Saturday).

"We'll just do a better job of recruiting for next year," said Zito, who won the 1991 Derby with Strike the Gold and the '94 Derby with Go For Gin.

Todd Pletcher won't have a starter, either, despite leading all trainers with 28 early Derby nominations. Three of his colts - Aristocat, Indy Dancer and Lion Tamer - didn't run well enough in their final preps to merit a Derby start.

Out of the Derby picture for the first time in five years is Dubai's Sheik Mohammed, who led all owners with 19 Derby nominations. Inamorato was his best hope, but the colt finished third in the UAE Derby on March 29.

On Derby day, though, it's who's in that counts. So here's a brief look at the definites (as of Sunday):

Atswhatimtalknbout - A son of 1992 Horse of the Year A.P. Indy partly owned by movie directors Steven Spielberg, Gary Ross and Frank Marshall, the colt will try to become the second unraced 2-year-old to win the Derby.

Brancusi - With only a maiden win in seven starts, the son of Deputy Commander will be ridden by 23-year-old Tony Farina, trying to become the first rider to win in his Derby debut since Ronnie Franklin aboard Spectacular Bid in 1979.

Buddy Gil - Comes into Derby off three straight wins, including the Santa Anita Derby. One of two geldings; Funny Cide is the other. The last gelding to win the Derby was Clyde Van Dusen in 1929.

Domestic Dispute - Would Baffert let a Derby contender leave his barn? The colt moved into Paddy Gallagher's care Sunday after being sold for an undisclosed amount. A winner of the Santa Catalina on Jan. 18, the chestnut has finished fifth, fifth and third in his last three races.

Empire Maker - The class of the field may go off as the shortest price favorite since Arazi in 1992. The son of 1990 Derby winner Unbridled out of a mare who produced four Grade 1 stakes winners also has Hall of Fame connections in Frankel and jockey Jerry Bailey.

Funny Cide - The gelding will attempt to become the first New York-bred to win the Derby.

Indian Express - The bay colt may be the first Utah-bred to run in the Derby. His first two starts were sprint wins in Panama before he was moved to Baffert's barn. He finished second in the Santa Anita Derby.

Kafwain - One of the most consistent horses in the race, the son of Cherokee Run has four wins in 11 starts.

Offlee Wild: Trained by T.V. Smith, the son of 1984 Breeders' Cup Classic winner Wild Again was third in the Blue Grass behind Peace Rules and Brancusi.

Outta Here: California-based colt was fourth in the UAE Derby on March 29, his only start this year. The last horse to win the Derby off one 3-year-old race was Bold Venture in 1936.

Peace Rules: Frankel made a brilliant call to take the chestnut colt off the grass and run him in the Louisiana Derby. He won that and then took the Blue Grass for his fifth win in eight starts.

Scrimshaw: With a win in the Lexington Stakes on April 19, the son of Gulch gave Lukas a Derby starter.

Sir Cherokee: Earned his Derby shot with a win in the Arkansas Derby at odds of 55-1.

Supah Blitz: Finished second in the Aventura on April 5, and will be ridden by Rosemary Homeister Jr., the fifth female to ride in the Derby.

Ten Cents a Shine: Despite finishing eighth in the Blue Grass, the colt's workout on Sunday convinced Lukas to enter him. Formerly trained by Ken McPeek, the colt will be ridden by Cornelio Velasquez.

Ten Most Wanted: The Illinois Derby winner is trained by Wally Dollase and will be ridden by Hall of Famer Pat Day.

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To: Julius Wong who wrote (14)4/28/2003 11:00:57 PM
From: 249443
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re: KY Derby

I have future bets on Wayne's horse @ 20:1 due to the impressive Lexington run. The Lewis's & Wayne stated this is one of the best horses they have ever had -- thankfully the surgery went well. The Lexington Beyer number, however, wasn't too high. I think the horse has room for improvement.

I also bet Ten Most Wanted @ 17.5:1 after the Illinois Derby, which I focused upon last year with War Emblem. War Emblem won the Illinois Derby and entered the '02 Derby with the highest Beyer. I believe Ten Most Wanted has the highest Beyer coming into this year's KY Derby -- although Crist says the race may have been a fluke and the Beyer's not "reliable".

Having said that -- Empire Maker looks terrific. The local books have him @ 1.4:1.

I wish Sky Mesa was in the race.

There is a new DRF book out about interpretting Beyer numbers. The author is a henchman of Andy's and assists in calculating Beyer numbers. I enjoy the book - but then again I enjoy anything about Beyer numbers.

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To: 249443 who wrote (15)4/28/2003 11:21:33 PM
From: Julius Wong
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I am not a good horse picker. My Derby picks were really bad, only about 10% right. I did better on other races, close to 30% right.

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To: Julius Wong who wrote (16)4/28/2003 11:41:43 PM
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KY Today:

Empire Maker is dropping to even money.
Late money coming in on Ten Most Wanted. and have some
good articles.

Peace Rules +800
Empire Maker EV
Kafwain +1400
Atswhatimtalknbout +800
Ten Most Wanted +500
Indian Express +1000
Funny Cide +1600
Offlee Wild +2000
Buddy Gill +800
Brancusi +1600
Sir Cherokee +1600
Outta Here +4000
Supah Blitz +5000
Scrimshaw +2000

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To: 249443 who started this subject4/29/2003 11:04:44 PM
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He's bruised, but still a go

LOUISVILLE, Ky. - Empire Maker is suffering from a bruise to his right front foot that needed attention Tuesday morning from both a veterinarian and a farrier, but trainer Bobby Frankel believed the injury would not prevent Empire Maker from running in the 129th Kentucky Derby on Saturday at Churchill Downs.

Still, the timing is not ideal. Foot bruises can clear up quickly, but can prove problematic if they linger or develop into something more serious. That is why Frankel and his staff jumped on the problem Tuesday after Empire Maker jogged one mile around the track.

"We're not panicking," said Frankel, whose mood lightened from concern to playful as the morning wore on. "Things like this happen every day. It just gets more attention because it's the Derby. Tomorrow, he'll be perfect. Put it this way - if he's not right, he's not going to run."

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To: 249443 who started this subject5/3/2003 2:59:35 PM
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$ coming in on Scrimshaw -- this morning/afternoon. Offshore books taking quite a bit of cash. Interesting.

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To: 249443 who started this subject5/10/2003 4:12:15 PM
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Kentucky Derby Fix?

Photos of Jose Santos @ Miami Herald.

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From: JakeStraw11/13/2018 4:07:51 PM
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Churchill Downs Incorporated Announces Annual Dividend Increase, 3-for-1 Stock Split, and $300 Million Share Repurchase Program

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From: JakeStraw1/11/2019 11:21:30 AM
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Churchill Downs was upgraded by analysts at Jefferies Financial Group Inc from a "hold" rating to a "buy" rating. They now have a $306.00 price target on the stock.

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