| To: sense who wrote (447) | 2/27/2023 10:12:52 PM | | From: Savant | | | | "They had one big happy tree, golden skinned fruit with texture like a honey crisp, but with the crunch, an intense rush of sugar... peach/cotton candy/apple... and so juicy, each bite left juice dribbling down your chin."
reminds me ...About 50 yrs ago, had an old varietal winesap apple tree...was about 30 yrs old, at least when I acquired it...had much better sugar/acid balance than the newer types ...next to it was a stump that was at least as old, or older...
One day a small tree grew out of the stump...maybe a seed from the winesap...don't know...after several years, it had fruit that was golden...sweet, crisp, and juicy...delicious.. Unfortunately, it got chemically poisoned...and then the winesap died......and then a tart pie cherry tree died...wonderful flavor also. |
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| To: Savant who wrote (448) | 2/27/2023 11:14:36 PM | | From: sense | | | | One day a small tree grew out of the stump..
Most people not aware that an old tree that dies... might not actually be dead for a long time. The root systems of old trees can carry on for a long time after the trunk fails...
Worth looking for in relation to old trees in the forest... with elders sustaining "communication" with younger plants through root networks, long after the above ground portion of the tree has died, and even rotted away, not leaving much evidence of what going on below...
Sadly, became relevant recently to the Pacific Northwest's granddaddy apple tree...
Vancouver’s Old Apple Tree dies at age 194
Oldest Apple Tree in the Pacific Northwest Lives On
Local nurseries over there were selling trees derived from it a while back, don't know if still are... but, also, the fruit from it wasn't all that much to get excited about... its mostly a novelty thing... although the longevity of it suggests it might be a good choice for breeding... as obviously well suited to the region, and long lived.. |
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| To: sense who wrote (449) | 2/27/2023 11:44:53 PM | | From: Savant | | | | The stump was at least 30 yrs old, prolly longer.
The sapling came out of a crack in the top of it...that's why I figger it was a seed from the winesap next to it...and was a throwback from whatever the hybrid winesap was.
The golden fruit was larger than the winesaps. The winesaps had a long storage life, too.
I miss all of them, though |
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| To: Savant who wrote (450) | 2/28/2023 2:09:26 AM | | From: sense | | | | Its funny how stuff like that connects to memory so well...
I remember as a kid, about six... so, sixty years ago... having an older couple my folks knew bring us a basket of apples they'd grown... big, yellow skinned... I thought "Golden Delicious"... but, boy were they good... and, no, not a grocery store Golden Delicious... but a well and carefully grown Grimes... not at all the same thing...
Why should I remember an apple I ate sixty years ago... as clearly as I do ? |
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| To: Savant who wrote (448) | 5/8/2023 6:49:32 PM | | From: sense | | | | Stopped by a small vineyard / winery last week. Was standing outside chatting with the owner/winemaker when I stopped mid-sentence without thinking and uttered a "holy crap"...
We were standing in the garden next to the house... underneath a large old tree... and I suddenly became aware that it was a cherry.
It was obviously a tree with some risks associated with it... large limbs leaning out over the house, clearly looking like they're going to fall on the house... sometime... likely soon. They said... "yeah, but, we can't bring ourselves to take it down".
The large "limbs" on the tree were joined around and rose straight from the base, each bigger than you could reach around... and then spread outwards. But, they weren't "limbs" exactly... rather than the remnant joined circle of now very mature sports that had long ago formed up in a ring around the core of the original tree... which was still there as a long dead core still poking up from inside the ring. The "limbs" were probably 60 years old... the visible core, poking out 10 feet above ground, was much larger around, and was probably already at least that old before the sports started. I'd be surprised if it wasn't 150 years old... but it could be much older.
The geometry of it is questionable... and each "limb" leans away from the dead core... but, each is healthy enough otherwise. It was in full flower, and, they say, makes a large crop of tart fruit each year... all of which goes to the birds... given no one wants to climb two stories up into a weak tree to try to net it...
I'll do some digging and see what I can learn about the history of the site... and maybe find a probable limit on its age that way...
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| To: sense who wrote (452) | 5/8/2023 7:50:16 PM | | From: Savant | | | | Wonder if they could use cables to support the ...limbs/trunks.
That's a big cherry tree...mine are about 15 ft.
Once knew a neighbor that had a two story Queen Ann cherry tree...yellow/blush red fruit...yum
Could find a fruit picking drone, to harvest, maybe |
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| To: Savant who wrote (453) | 5/8/2023 10:22:25 PM | | From: sense | | | | They have structured a sort of basket design of heavy duty chains between limbs to try to contain the risks...
Had friends in Sacramento with an own rooted Queen Ann... as tall as the Eucalyptus in the neighborhood...
The cherries were great... a lot of them... but... impossible to pick them.
You didn't want to stand under it when the wind picked up... |
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