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To: Sun Tzu who wrote (20352)10/10/2019 8:09:05 AM
From: Chas.
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Way to dark need to lighten up …..

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To: Chas. who wrote (20360)10/10/2019 10:38:07 AM
From: T'Munney
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<<You need to Lighten up the Foreground and Darken the Background....>>

thanks

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To: Chas. who wrote (20361)10/10/2019 11:21:19 AM
From: Sun Tzu
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You think so? I actually thought the opposite. Lightening the foreground would make it compete with the eye catching lighthouse and drastic sunset glow. Ideally, I wouldn't want the people on the promenade island (or the whole promenade) but I don't have a choice about that. So I considered darkening them to a silhouette, but just didn't want to spend the time masking (this is not the kind of image where you can just play with gamma or histogram and just make things appear/disappear).

What do you think about that?

Here's there same image with the people cropped out - but the compromise is getting rid of the best parts of the sunset glow.



So should the foreground be darkened or lightened here?

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To: Sun Tzu who wrote (20363)10/10/2019 12:20:01 PM
From: Chas.
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Just lighten up the boats a little and crop the top 50% of the sky away......

Also who is McRaven referencing here (from your bio)....."Through your actions, you have embarrassed us in the eyes of our children, humiliated us on the world stage and, worst of all, divided us as a nation," Navy Admiral William McRaven

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To: Chas. who wrote (20364)10/10/2019 5:44:24 PM
From: Sun Tzu
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Ok, I will give it a try when I get a chance.

PS Too tired of discussing politics... Not to mention that this is (or at least should be) one of the places that people can enjoy each other without politics. Lots of other threads for political debates.

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To: Sun Tzu who wrote (20365)10/10/2019 6:39:29 PM
From: Chas.
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I'm very aware that photo's are subject to extreme opinion re composure but each opinion should be examined with an open mind, such as you are doing, not right or wrong just another perspective....

Yes Politics gets old because there is usually No Where to Go With It...like Religion, you Believe or you don't...

I'm old and have been down all those roads and mostly to no avail....

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To: Chas. who wrote (20366)10/10/2019 7:26:29 PM
From: Sun Tzu
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Another important thing that is often missed is color calibration. Trying to achieve perfect calibration between your eyes, camera, the monitor, and the printer is an exercise in inanity. It was even worse in the film days, but even today and with manufacturer supplied ICC profiles, it is still hard to achieve perfect (or even great) color calibration.

On my monitory (which is actually not a monitor but a 4k TV with 4:4:4 chroma) the boats are not too dark. But I've played with my screen's gamma and color settings to get what I think is right. On my cell phone (which was used to take the photo) the image is different.


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To: Sun Tzu who wrote (20367)10/10/2019 8:49:52 PM
From: Chas.
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This is a bit more appealing to me, cropped the sky and lightened the boats


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To: Chas. who wrote (20368)10/11/2019 12:33:00 PM
From: Sun Tzu
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I took an informal poll of the pictures. Most agreed that cropping out the sky was a good idea. However, brightening the image washed out some of the details and did not made the lighthouse look less pleasing.

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To: Sun Tzu who wrote (20369)10/11/2019 1:40:54 PM
From: Chas.
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Eyes of the Beholder....Thank you for sharing your picture and comments...

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