| To: epicure who wrote (93004) | 4/12/2003 6:32:38 PM | | From: JohnM | | | | is it better if he doesn't know it?
Actually, Bill has a life beyond this thread so he has an excuse for not knowing. You and I need to get our lives soon. My excuse is that I don't want to start the next step in TurboTax. What's yours? |
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| To: KLP who wrote (93003) | 4/12/2003 6:35:11 PM | | From: kumar | | | | | OK, "translatioin error". I interpreted newsgroup as the internet newsgroups structure. U meant it as a group of news articles, I think. |
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| To: carranza2 who wrote (92826) | 4/12/2003 6:35:16 PM | | From: FaultLine | | | | likewise apologized to you via PM
Indeed you did and I accepted.
FWIW: It was your call to say this here because I try not to discuss PM's in general (even though I gave a hint of our exchange in my previous post).
--ken/fl@doesmyhairlooknicetoday?.com |
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| To: FaultLine who started this subject | 4/12/2003 6:39:09 PM | | From: JohnM | | | | Today's New York Times has contrasting views on the argument that the key to ME peace is through a settling of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. Here is the introductory blurb. Then I'll put the links. Doran makes some fascinating points, always writes a great piece.
We are, quite clearly, going to see the outcome of taking Doran's advice over Telhami's.
When President Bush and the British prime minister, Tony Blair, met this week in Hillsborough, Northern Ireland, they announced an all-out push to resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict by implementing the "road map," the Middle East peace initiative that envisions a Palestinian state by 2005. Britain, along with France and other nations in Europe and the Arab world, have declared that a Mideast peace settlement is the only way to bring stability to the Arab world. The Bush administration, though, has treated the Israeli-Palestinian conflict as one problem that must compete with many others, like getting rid of Saddam Hussein.
Shibley Telhami, the Anwar Sadat professor for peace and development at the University of Maryland and the author of "The Stakes: America and the Middle East: The Consequences of Power and the Choice for Peace," argues that the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is indeed at the heart of the region's problems, that it is essential to the success of any American policy.
Michael Scott Doran, adjunct senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations and assistant professor at Princeton University, disagrees. He argues that maintaining American predominance in the Persian Gulf, with its oil reserves and its strategic location — not settling the Israeli-Palestinian conflict — is a prerequisite for stability.
Mideast Peace?: An Arab-Israeli Pact Must Come First
By SHIBLEY TELHAMI
nytimes.com
Mideast Peace?: The Key to Peace Is a Stable Gulf
By MICHAEL SCOTT DORAN
nytimes.com |
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| To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (92922) | 4/12/2003 6:44:11 PM | | From: KonKilo | | | | Yes, I see a close between the US today, and Napolean's Empire a few years before Moscow.
Eeyeewwww!
Anti-Americans!
I'll bet you were sneering when you typed that!!!
(Sorry, wanted to see, for just a moment, how the other side lives...<g>) |
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| To: FaultLine who wrote (92998) | 4/12/2003 6:48:04 PM | | From: paul_philp | | | | Great post, thanks!
Thinking about the systems evolution in our political and social structures, and seeing much that lurks within similar to what I have just described, is at the same time a little depressing, because of the constraints it exposes, yet reassurring that the universe has 'its ways'.
I think seeing things in terms of systems evolution is a powerful framework. I see the Middle East has a system heading towards collapse so the goal is simply to get the evolution happening again before the collapse spreads.
Paul |
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| To: JohnM who wrote (92969) | 4/12/2003 6:48:50 PM | | From: Neeka | | | | At the moment it still illustrates the rabid right's (just couldn't resist typing that--I've been controlling my twitching fingers far too long--but they just took over and said to hell with my better instincts) first priority is not to report or analyze the news but to find some way to beat up on everyone else.
These so called "rabid right's priorities" may have had some justification after all when one takes CNNs Eason Jordon's report into consideration.
There is a sense that there is a lot of mistrust of the various news organizations because the news they relay seems so one way or that something is missing or that too much editorializing takes place.
I can honestly say that I have been a lot more sceptical, and have paid a lot more attention to news reporting in general since the whole idea of slanting the news became an issue. Before the word was used for that purpose, I thought of slant as giving a direction other than perpendicular or horizontal.
This question is common, but is it really a news organizations duty to analyze the news?
M |
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