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To: John Carragher who wrote (88457)	3/31/2003 7:51:16 PM
From: LindyBill	of 281500

The Times had two comments. No big deal. 1) Representative Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, Republican of Florida, said on Fox News Channel that she found the interview "nauseating." She added, "It's incredible he would be kowtowing to what clearly is the enemy in this way." 2) The comments were likely to make Mr. Arnett a renewed target of Republican lawmakers, many of whom already contend that his reporting is slanted in favor of the Iraqis.

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To: Climber who wrote (88460)	3/31/2003 7:55:43 PM
From: LindyBill	of 281500

Here is the other version on Geraldo. Confusion Over Status of Geraldo Rivera in Iraq Mon Mar 31, 1:50 PM ET By Charles Aldinger WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Veteran reporter and former talk show host Geraldo Rivera, a correspondent for Fox News, was asked to be removed from Iraq (news - web sites) by the U.S. military for reporting Western troop movements in the war, the Pentagon (news - web sites) said on Monday. But in a report from Iraq where he was about 60 miles from Baghdad with the 101st Airborne Division, Rivera, known for his provocative on-screen style, said all was well and suggested he wasn't being ejected from the country by the U.S. military for coverage of the war. Defense Department spokesman Bryan Whitman later told Reuters, however, that Fox News itself had agreed to remove Rivera after the military commander where Rivera was reporting felt that he had "compromised operational security." A Fox spokesman said: "All I can tell you is that he's still reporting from Iraq." Rivera said in his televised report that he did not know where the reports about the alleged security violations came from but accused colleagues, including former employer NBC, of perhaps "spreading some lies about me." He suggested all was well between him and the military. "I'm further in the country than I have ever been," Geraldo said. "If you were to ask me on whether or not he had reported on things that were of tactical value and compromised operational security, I would have to say yes. In the eyes of the commander on the ground, he did," Whitman told Reuters. "I would say that he is going to be leaving Iraq," added Whitman. "Fox has talked to us and they have indicated to us that they are going to remove him from the area of operations." Whitman, who had earlier said the military was ejecting Rivera, later amended that to Fox agreeing to withdraw the correspondent. Reports from competing media said earlier that Rivera, a former talk show host and veteran correspondent who has also reported the war in Afghanistan (news - web sites) and high-profile stories such as the O.J. Simpson (news) murder trial, had been accused of violating rules against compromising operational security. Whitman said Rivera was not officially "embedded," or assigned to the unit by the military, but was covering the troops at the time. news.yahoo.com

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To: LindyBill who wrote (88387)	3/31/2003 8:00:32 PM
From: JohnM	of 281500

Since that post is a response to the Hersh article, I gather you don't like what you read there. Bill. So far, no one has denied anything in the article. That's interesting all by itself. And Rumsfeld's reactions are to say the plan "will" work. It may do so. God help us, if this thing drags on very long. But, bless folk like Hersh, who are committed, contrary to the political spin one gets everywhere, to give us some accurate information about what's happening.

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To: tekboy who wrote (88418)	3/31/2003 8:00:56 PM
From: carranza2	of 281500

especially as he, [Judt] strays very casually onto turf that he isn't an expert in. Perfect FADG fodder. Invite him to post. I would be much less categorical or dismissive than he is, and I think to myself,where does he get off being so snippy?" He's even got the right attitutde. Definitely a prospect.

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To: Condor who wrote (88420)	3/31/2003 8:01:02 PM
From: KLP	of 281500

How silent would you be Condor, if it were Canadians who were being held, some of them already murdered and maimed, and the remainder not being allowed to see the IRC....?

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To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (88378)	3/31/2003 8:02:30 PM
From: Dennis O'Bell	of 281500

We are against the ICC, because we want to have the freedom to commit war crimes (as defined by the ICC), to pursue our national goals by force: The ICC would most likely wind up allowing such a "responsible" world leader as Roberto Mugabe to file motions against US citizens and have them "stick". You think I'm joking... this is a world where Libya heads a UN human rights abuse commission (it takes one to know one on that.)

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To: Sun Tzu who wrote (88452)	3/31/2003 8:07:11 PM
From: E.J. Neitz Jr	of 281500

Sun Tzu >>>there is the matter of deficit, which is not small<<< Relative to this nation's historical past it is quite small relative to GDP. >>>retraction from the "strong dollar<<< this administration has affirmed a strong dollar policy. >>>That lack of defense of dollar eventually deteriorated to what in currency jargon amounts to "we want weak dollar" policy.<<<< Your opinion. >>>By bringing the dollar down, this administration has tried to inflate itself out of the economic woes rather than pursuing a real economic policy<<< I am sure the Bush economic team would question that. Your opinion again. >> >>>And we have all gotten poorer for it<<< Being primarily in bonds since Bush was elected, I have become richer, not poorer. I question your use of the word "all".

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To: tekboy who wrote (88418)	3/31/2003 8:09:59 PM
From: JohnM	of 281500

Thanks for the quickie reviews. I'm reading the Mandelbaum now, but reading only sections that interest me. The writing style drags so I find I have to care a great deal about the argument to keep going; but then find the argument structured at a more abstract level than can sustain interest. So, all in all, not helpful yet. The Zakaria is on reserve at the library. I skimmed it today at the bookstore and thought it lightweight relative to the Mandelbaum. But will reserve serious judgment until I have time to actually read it. Kupchan is also on reserve. I found the original Kagan article too tendentious, too much the neocon ideologue for my present tastes. But, given his stuff shows up on a lot of screens, I've put the book on reserve. Don't expect to be surprised but you never can tell. Oh, yes, Huntington is in the pile to be read as well. It just seems to stay third on the list. Thanks again.

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To: KyrosL who wrote (88444)	3/31/2003 8:11:56 PM
From: KLP	of 281500

Correct...25 million, not 70 million. But it certainly should be able to continue feeding itself....Unless Saddam has squandered all of their resources....This is an interesting site. cia.gov

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To: KLP who wrote (88465)	3/31/2003 8:12:10 PM
From: Condor	of 281500

How silent would you be Condor, if it were Canadians who were being held, some of them already murdered and maimed, and the remainder not being allowed to see the IRC....? I wouldn't be silent in that case.

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