| To: redfish who wrote (150770) | 11/3/2004 8:02:06 AM | | From: GST | | | | | When the ballots are all counted, the election will be over. That is how democracy works. People vote and the ballots are counted. The person with the most votes wins. The world will not come to an end if the time is taken to count the ballots. Doing otherwise, if the results of the election are in any doubt, would be a betrayal of those whose votes were not counted. Some patience and respect for the process is required. |
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| To: redfish who wrote (150770) | 11/3/2004 8:19:56 AM | | From: Keith Feral | | | | If Mr. Kerry chooses not to accept the election results, no one is going to give any attention to the Democrat campaigns going forward. This will pave the way for a series of neocon activists on a level the left has nerver seen.
The arrogance of the Democrats is overwhelming. They can't seem to get their egos to fit back in their heads after 8 years of cigar smoking euphoria during the Clinton administration. Certainly, they must be able to relate better to the American people than the swaggering Texan they despise. However, when you look at the polling results, Kerry does not stand a chance in 80& of the precincts that are polled. He gets all of his support from urban centers with high populations. Bush would continue to build a big enough lead in all of the smaller communities throughout an entire state and watch the lead shrink back as the polls from the major cities were counted.
To have the Democrats send 1000 lawyers into Ohio to get provisional voters back on track is fine with me. I think it is distateful, just like giving out cigarettes and booze to bumbs to get them to vote. However, the provisional and absentee ballots remaining in Ohio need to be counted before a legal precedent blocks up the polling process in the court system. Florida clearly showed that the provisional votes were consistent with the overall voting pattern of the state. No significant statistical deviations. |
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| To: Keith Feral who wrote (150769) | 11/3/2004 8:39:32 AM | | From: Elsewhere | | | | BILD is as representative of German opinions as the New York Post is of US ones.
Gee, and I thought 80% of the people in Germany thought the US was following the wrong policy.
GOOOD MOOORNING, Rip van Winkle, were you asleep in 2001? Schröder risked his chancellorship to join the USA in Afghanistan. Nothing changed about this policy during the past three years.
It is easier for them to hide behind US policy
Which country provides the strongest contribution to ISAF in Afghanistan?
Which country provides, next to the USA, the most soldiers to UN peacekeeping missions? |
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| To: Elsewhere who wrote (150777) | 11/3/2004 8:52:01 AM | | From: Keith Feral | | | | | I was alluding to the negative popularity polls in recent days that were drummed up by the media arguing that 80% of Europe wanted Bush out of office. Good to see Germany keeping it's resolve in Afghanistan. Too bad we don't have any German troops on our side in Iraq. I hope that Germany will step up the pressure against OBL and Al Quaeda. In any case, it's good to hear we have some support because the press has been ripping the US a good one to try and get Kerry elected. |
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| To: Keith Feral who wrote (150776) | 11/3/2004 9:01:25 AM | | From: michael97123 | | | | So far kerry has done nothing wrong. It is my belief he will do the right thing. Last night they may have been hoping for the then 96k vote lead bush had to shrink to under 50k. If that happened he would have had a chance. He also was hoping for a tightening of the pop vote which did not happen. Now it is obvious to all that kerry has lost. He can only make an attempt to get the lawyers to somehow steal ohio. He then would be president who lost pop vote by 3.5 million votes. Kerry is a patriot first. He will concede defeat. Give bush credit also for not declaring victory last night. He is giving kerry and the dems a chance to remain a national party. Mike
PS I hit the pop vote number in my prediction. Bush will end up with 286 electors and i said 300-325. Total vote was 112 million not 120+ as predicted earlier. Youth vote in line with earlier elections. Kids never vote in expected numbers. They wont stand out in the rain when they could be making out and doing other things kids do. Dems cant ever get into red states without at least respecting alternate positions on cultural issues. Dems must have pissed off red states in a big way for bush to run up those pop vote totals. |
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| To: Neocon who wrote (150688) | 11/3/2004 9:04:08 AM | | From: michael97123 | | | | | Sabatow?? at U of VA nailed the presidency, the house and the senate. He said the networks should get their money back from the exit polling company. Overweighted young, newbies, women and grossly underweighted white males. Mike |
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| To: Elsewhere who wrote (150654) | 11/3/2004 9:12:38 AM | | From: michael97123 | | | | | I heard Putin quoted today as thanking God that bush won and that the american people didnt cave into terrorism (bin laden tape). More than any other reason that is why i ended up voting for bush. Bin Laden sealed the deal because i really did believe that bin laden would having seen kerrys history over the years would have tested him like Krushchev tested JFK. That almost led on nuclear war during the CMC when JFK proved his metal. I think Kerry would have proved his metal too, however the blow we would have taken might have been severe. With Bush, obl understand the consequences of any attack. Having said all of that, i do not rule out a future attack over the next four years. Mike |
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| To: michael97123 who wrote (150779) | 11/3/2004 9:19:47 AM | | From: Keith Feral | | | | I have lived in a lot of the red states including the one that is currently being contested. There is no way that the red states could tolerate Kerry's arrogance. These people all smoke a pack of Marlboro Reds and love W's swagger. Frankly, I am surprised that Kerry was able to pull out so many voters in Cuyahoga and Summit Counties. I am shocked that the urbanization of Northeastern Ohio has already delivered these counties to the Dark side.
Off of these boards, no one has time for the intellectual eliticism of the Democrats. The Democrats are only staying in the race by promising urban voters something they can't deliver - national healthcare, entitlements, higher taxes for the rich. Whatever it takes to make the urban masses that the Democrats will make someone else suffer just like them.
That negativity will not work outside of the huge mass of urban voters. |
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| To: michael97123 who wrote (150781) | 11/3/2004 9:34:05 AM | | From: Keith Feral | | | | | Michael: Weren't all of the people from the Democrat's side supposed to join in for some sort of prayer, invocation, or dedication of support? Maybe 4 years of bickering will be replaced with 4 years of solitude. Fine with me. Beyond that, the Democrats are sure to hurt their election outlook for 2008 if they do not trying to act outside of the election process to influence polling results. |
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